On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, Denis HAVLIK wrote:
> Hi, folks
> 
> It feels strange when I have to reply to my own message but... I thought
> that "upgrade" is an extremely important topic, yet no one wants to
> discuss it. Does it mean that you are not interested (so we should stop
> worying about upgrade) or what? I repeat:

It seems like a catch 22 as its probably more important to those of us with a
minimal grasp on Linux yet this minimal grasp limits our ability to respond. 

 > :~>What do you expect from upgrade?

I have a hard time with installs and upgrades. It would be nice if upgrades
could recognize my choices of sendmail and proftp (e.g. upgrades keep
installing wu-ftp). The dificulty is designing and maintaining that chosen
system design.

A report on non-Mandrake packages (e.g. htdig) after an upgrade would be handy
as I could check functionality, see if newer versions are available etc. Heck a
report on what changes the upgrade made, problems it found (fixed or couldn't
do anything with), etc. would be real nice.

> 5) VANDAL: force install of the core, and upgrade of those packages we
> provide. The rest can go to hell. ;->>

Might have possibilities if it only upgrades installed packages and reports
on other packages...define core

> 2) FORCED: Force instalation of a new "core" system, even if this
> means downgroading, or breaks some functionality of the already installed
> system, then go on with freshening the rest of the packages.

For this to be viable it seems you have to check and report the packages that
might break or be newer than what the 'upgrade' would install, before actually
doing it. I'm not sure how a new 'core' might be a downgrade, I doubt I upgrade
'core' rpms (then again are linuxconf and bind 'core'?)

> 3) REPAIR: Like conservative, but try to repair existing packages too,
> If we find out that some of the files are missing, or that someone fooled
> with binaries, reinstall the package (even if it means downgrading!)

I'm not sure what to say on this one as it seems I have a number of rpms with
missing files, I figured there was a reason for this. Is a repair really a
repair?

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