And people wonder how and why servers get hacked, and why there is so many
open mail relays.

Well I can tell ya,

1. Microsoft! (no need to explain this one)
2. Users who do not know what they are doing with the servers they are
setting up on their broadband. People no longer take the time to RTFM or
read the faq, mans, and howto's.

I applaud Mandrake for making a semi secure distro! Hopefully we can stop
the su abuse sometime soon.

"They meaning of life is 42"
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Eric Peters     Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administrator Network Operations
Inherent Technologies Inc.   
office (503)224-6751 ext 224
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 9:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake's Arrogance
> 
> 
> Hoyt wrote:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 1:34 AM
> > Subject: [expert] RIGHT CLICK--NEW -> Folder
> > 
> > >
> > > Are you folks who are complaining running as _root_?
> > >
> > > This is something not to be done, for many reasons, 
> including the fact
> > that you
> > > get kicked from most IRC servers.
> > >
> > 
> > I find it arrogant that Mandrake would deliberatly cripple 
> the functionality
> > of programs in order to prohibit certain behavior that they 
> have decided is
> > inappropriate. This kind of "I know better than you" unwelcomed
> > paternalistic coercion is awfully Microsoft-ish. Is this 
> the direction
> > Mandrake is heading? Yuck!
> > 
> > Hoyt
> 
> 
> 
> Hear! Hear!!  ... One of the several reasons I switched from 
> Mandrake to
> SuSE!!!.
> 
> simon
> 

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