Alexander Skwar wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2000 at 10:58:28AM -0600, Stephen Bosch wrote:
> > Buchan Milne wrote:
> >
> > > > Wherever possible I avoid Microsoft filesystems.
> > >
> > > NTFS is not that bad. It supports ACLs which linux does not yet. The
> > > biggest problem is that very few Windows (NT) users know/care about file
> > > permissions.
> >
> > NT's file access control is, if you ask me, a complete disaster -- of
> > course, it's not entirely the fault of the filesystem; it may have more to
> > do with NT's lousy security token model.
> 
> Well, I actually disagree.  In the Unix world you can only be in one group
> at a time.  This can be a real obstacle.  Let's say you want to write a file
> that you read a file from /dev/ttyS0, with the standard (?) ownership of
> root.tty and 660 and you want to write it to a directory where only your
> group has write permissions.  What to do?  Sure, you may make a backup file
> in your home dir, but that's not comfortable at all.

In Unix you can be a member of multiple groups (see usermod -g in man
usermod). In this case you would put the file in the groups home dir,
where you have set the group-execute bit on the dir so all files are by
default created with the same group ownership of the groups home.

Unix's permission model can accomodate most scenarios, it just takes a
bit of thinking. 

ACLs will make this easier.

> With the NT ACL this wouldn't be a problem as you can be in multiple groups
> at a time or because the user is explicetily <sp?> listed for a dir.
> 
> Alexander Skwar
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