Jerry Sternesky wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:55:16 +0100 you wrote:
>
> Thanks for replying,
>
> I finally tossed caution to  the wind and tried the
> cdrom.img also.  It seemed to find the 7.1 installation
> without a problem, so I choose upgrade.  BIG OUCH there, I
> started it at 8pm on Friday went to sleep around 1am and it
> was still running.  Aroud 4:30am I got woken up by
> something, so I checked on the install and it was asking for
> the ext-cd, I put that in and went back to bed.

I see you suffer from the same 'late to bed, early up to check'  symptoms
I witnessed.

> The at 9am,
> on saturday I went back the install and found the same issue
> with the printer, I have HP deskjet 680C, the install just
> couldn't get it to go.

I  looked with F3 at the paths they used. They use absolute paths like
'/usr/...'  when it should be relative to /mnt during install.

> The hard drive estimations were way
> off for me, I have a 10 gig drive and it told me there
> wasn't sufficiant space for 2mb's of pagages to install.

That's what I experienced too.

> On
> the up side it did find my Umax scanner and the cdr.  Both
> on the same scsi adapter.
>

With SCSI you've a better chance at success.


>
> This is a server machine behind a firewall, so I was running
> NFS on it.  It seems I have a problem with my portmapper
> that causes nfs to fail on load, so I am currently hammering
> away at that.  With no luck so far, I may try deleting the
> NFS configuration, restarting all services, configure it
> back in and restart to see if that kicks it the but and gets
> it going.  This machine acts as a server for me, providing
> storage space and print services for 2 linux and 1 windows
> client.  So I do want to get these issues resolved soon.
> Also it is a reall pain in the put to work on the server,
> ssh doesn't work any more either, so I now have to sit in
> front of the machine and do the work.
>

I would try that NFS solution too.

>
>  On one other client, I did a fresh install of 7.2 and that
> seem's to have gone very well, except for 2 issues that I
> can see right now, I am afraid there will be more once I get
> into that machine.  I can't configure the printer or mount
> nfs shares because the the server isn't well with the 7.2
> upgrade and the videofor X is wacked out.  I have a
>  Trident Blade 3d card with 2 3dfx cards in SLI mode over
> there.  The problem is the windows are skewed to the right,
>  and anything from the center of the screen over repeats
> itself until it disappears off the visable screen area.
>
> I must say I am disappointed with with the upgrade script,
> it took way to long to run and the configured services that
> were working have now stopped because of it.  I switched to
> Mandrake about a year ago and had been very pleased with it
> until this release.
>
> As much as I want kde2 on my main client, I am afraid to
> install or upgrade that client because I need it working out
> of the gun, I can't sit and fiddle with it for days to get
> it working again.  That is a 7.1 install running a modified
> 2.2.16 kernel.  I am wondering if I could get to 7.2 on that
> client, by doing a manual kernel upgrade (modified and
> compiled with the options I need), uninstalling kde, putting
> the cd in and doing an rpm --freshen, than manually
> installing kde2 and cups.  Since I have never done that
> approach before I am unsure of what I will in for.
>

You're right. I would never blow away the old install just like that. I was
lucky to have a spare disk to do an install in parallel to my old and boy am
I glad.  I'm going back and forth between them 2 now to customize my new
install. I don't think that upgrading the kernel is necessary if you don't
need any special features. Kde2 was also my main reason for upgrading but you
will loose a lot of configuration files for the apps and your desktop. Kppp
luckily is able to use the old config files. But some apps compiled for kde1
won't work although qt1.44 is still on board and there's a package for kde1
compatibility. I would rather upgrade XFree86 since its quicker and less
memory hungry with better mouse support too. I tried the tarballs from
xfree86 since you exaclty know which ones you need from their docs and it was
easy to get things installed and working. I find the way Mandrake splits up
their packages is complicated and you don't know what's in them up front not
to mention the dependency problems you encounter. It was virtually impossible
to upgrade from 6.0 all this considered.

>
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> > I just did the same meaning I tried to install 7.2 from images I burned
> > via that boot floppy and ran in exactly the same thing.
> > The solution is to simply use the cdimage.  It is able to make a reiser
> > fs.
> >
> > But allthough 7.2 is very promissing and interesting, the installer is
> > not.
> > Your troubles won't be over just yet cause the installer is buggy in
> > more than one field.
> > I encountered the following in expert mode:
> > 1. The disk space estimations are wrong, I had 2.5 G. and it saw only
> > 1.7 G. This causes him to nag about insuficient space and probably mess
> > up the whole packages decisions process afterwards.
> > 2. Even if you select every single package that you want, and there're a
> > lot, your choices are simply ignored and messed up even though the total
> > install size was accepted by the installer. It simply installs what it
> > wants to install (due probably to that 67% rule you see after the size
> > warning).
> > Even with auto dependencies on, it forgets the most elementary stuff
> > like kdebase when you say you want KDE.
> > 3. The printer install is totally bug ridden and fails on every account.
> >
> > After my 1st install attempt I ended up with a fvwm interface and no
> > mention of KDE or Gnome, pretty desillusioning!
> >
> > In my 2nd attempt I chose the custom mode and unselected quit a lot. It
> > again ignored my choices and installed almost everything. Luckily I knew
> > I had enough space so it finished OK. Printer install failed again of
> > course.
> > 1. This time I had no isapnp.conf although I had it after the 1st
> > install.
> > 2. Once the install is done you can configure the printers with e.g.
> > kups. This works. The results are great compared to the past (I have a
> > HP890C).
> > 3. Only my 1st cd drive is seen, not the second. Cdplayers don't work
> > yet.
> > 4. My scanner is not seen.
> > 5. My ktuner for kde1 doesn't work with kde2.
> > 6. Realplayer is missing.
> > 7. Audio wasn't working (my isa SB16) and I had to run isapnp and
> > configure modules.conf to get it going.
> > So, there's a couple a weeks work ahead to get everything going and
> > configured as usual, like I'm used to with linux. I'm not complaining
> > about the content of MD7.2, it's simply great  and with the INST& EXT
> > cds you have a great database of s.w..
> > There's a lot  you can learn.
> >
> > Much luck.
> >
> > Guy.
> >
> >
> >


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