yes, they are business, but if their product sucks and it's compared with the same
quality products of microsoft, how relevant it is that mandrake is ahead of red
hat? I think that's a losing strategy. In fact, i am still using 7.1 because i
don't want to deal with the crap of all new version of LM. New LM verson may
sounds like a winning marketing strategy, but it is not. I am not sure i will
upgrade my system till they put a stable version out.
Eric Krout wrote:
> If you hadn't noticed, Linux-Mandrake is a business. They're in an
> obvious version war with RedHat, and always try and have their latest
> distribution greater than RedHat's (i.e. 8.0 > 7.2).
>
> Eric
>
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> Eric Krout
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>
> On Fri, 11 May 2001, Chris Spencer wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to express a sincere thank-you to everyone on this list. From
> > the developers, to the long time subscribers, and even the newbies. You all
> > have helped me in incredible ways to learn, adopt, and embrace the GNU/Linux
> > environment.
> >
> > I installed Linux Mandrake for the first time about a year and a half ago, I
> > think version 7.0. Previous to that I was using SuSE 6.3. I was a total
> > newbie and asked a lot of annoying questions. At that time, Linux Mandrake
> > blew me away. It was easy to install, easy to work with, fun to play with,
> > but best of all the information I could pick up from the newbie and expert
> > lists was amazing. I religiously read through every email, even if it didn't
> > apply to me, so I could learn more about the amazing features of a
> > Linux-based operating system.
> >
> > But times they are a changing. Mandrake is aiming their distribution at
> > newbies - a great idea! That said, I disagree with Mandrake's direction of
> > releasing a cutting edge distro aimed for newbie use. 8.0, although it has a
> > lot of bells and whistles, was rushed but is unstable and frustrating to use.
> > Cutting edge is nice, but some serious QA needs to be done IF your target
> > audience is the newbie crowd.
> >
> > Developers, think about your first experiences with Linux. What did you like
> > about it so much? I am willing to bet that one of the top reasons was
> > stability. It doesn't crash. And everything "works".
> >
> > If I were a newbie and installed Linux Mandrake my first impression would be
> > "Wow, that was easier to install than I thought it would be." And I would
> > probably be impressed with the way things worked. I would not be impressed,
> > though, with the bugs that are shipped. I would not be impressed with how the
> > software update feature didn't work properly right out of the box. I would
> > also not be impressed with how a seemingly innocent update would wreck my
> > working environment. I'm talking about the recent kdelibs update.
> >
> > Some serious QA needs to happen if you plan to release a distro aimed at the
> > newbie crowd. Otherwise you risk turning them away from Linux completely if
> > things don't work right. The beta was frozen for what, two or three days
> > before the official release? Thats not right. There are too many kinks in
> > Mandrake 8.0 to make it release quality. A month from final beta to release
> > candidate would have solved a lot of them.
> >
> > Not being a newbie anymore and feeling disgruntled after the release of
> > Mandrake 8.0 I have removed it from my system and have installed a different
> > distribution, one more aimed at experts. I haven't been this happy since I
> > installed Mandrake 7.0. I have all the bells and whistles (plus more) that
> > Mandrake 8.0 has and more stability than I am used to.
> >
> > Once again, thanks to everyone for helping learn this operating environment.
> > Its a big change from Windows, but man, is it worth it.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
