On Monday 09 July 2001 12:03, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > > Until these
> > > inconsistencies are resolved, Linux will remain for hackers who
> > > time and knowledge to fix things so that they will run, and the
> > > common user will never get to reap the benefits os this otherwise
> > > wonderful operating system.
>
> On Monday 09 July 2001 10:02 am, M. Osten wrote:
> > Do you really want persons that can not edit a text file running
> > linux at all? I'm not prepared to try to support people that can
> > barely hold a mouse. The whole Linux replacing Windows on the
> > desktop is stupid...who cares. I use Linux because it works, I like
> > using it.
>
> Amen. (see below)
>
> > On a entirely diffrent flame fest. If this is the Mandrake expert
> > mailing list, I hate to see what the newbie list is like.
>
> I recently re-subscribed after takin several months off. Nothin's
> changed, it's still dominated by those who want hand holding, obviously
> haven't made the slightest effort to research their problem, and many
> don't even think that learning to use Linux is, or even should be their
> responsibility. The majority also want to place blame and criticise the
> OS. They've never been willing to approach problems as user - hardware
> - and lastly the OS, any OS. A few are insistent and abusive also.
> Most have no idea of the difference between open and closed source
> soft/hardware, or want to be bothered. They blame Mandrake for their
> winmodem, aureal sound, or GeForce not being supported right out of the
> box. If I read "but it works great with Windows" one more time .........
>
> Guess I need another break from the newbie list ;)
You envision this as a mutual admiration society? I thought of it as a place
to access experts, and lend a hand. Oh, and the whole point is it doesn't
work great with Windows; it works great with Linux. Let's work to keep Linux
great, to make the appelation "expert" mean something. If the whole
landscape changes drastically with every release, then what is "expert?"
This is how M$ behaves; why bother to MCSE if it will be obsolete in 6
months. Nearly everything I have known about UNIX is still valuable today;
the files are in about the same place, the scripts work; and it has changed
many times. It just hasn't broken the knowledge base.
