Well just maybe, the machine I was runing on was part of a BL**** great
unix network , split over 3 continents !!!!

It pretty obvioud that the use of encrytion is badly understood.

If you send an encrypted password the other end must have the capability
of de-encryption...

Now surely that's a straight forward thing for some people to understand
?? 


Ok lets try to simplify it a little bit further..


hoew do you install ssh on a unix network when you dont have root access
?

And even if you did , it will not go through a proxy server that is very
remote, and has to be logged into..


OK I'll go one stage further in words you might understand


ITS BLOODY IMPOSSIBLE



regards richard....OH incase yourt confused with the different e-mail
address, I go home at weekends
On Sat, 2001-11-17 at 03:46, Mark Weaver wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2001 15:04:48 +0100
> kons Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > You missed the point a wee bit Tom, to get out to the outside world I
> > have to use a proxy sever,300 miles away in stockholm.
> > I have no way of installing ssh on that server, so I'm stuck with
> > telneting.
> > by using port  7200 and using xinetd to only allow from 1 address is the
> > best I can do under the circumstances
> 
> openssh installs just like telnet, so how is it that you're unable to install and 
>use ssh on the very machine that you're now running telnet? they both connect to the 
>machine in much the same way. one is unsecure and sends login information in the 
>clear and one is encrypted and does "not" send login information in the clear. i 
>don't see the problem.
> 



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