On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:47:36 -0800 Deryk Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just finished installing 8.1 on two machines - both previously > running 7.2 > > Although I am pleased with the look and feel of the new system there > are some definite shortcomings (IMHO) in the install/update process > (if anyone from MDK is listening). > > First and this has been brought up before, why is there no "install > everything" option? I dedicated a 40GB hard drive to this > installation, I'd much prefer to have installed everything and then > removed what I didn't want. Even distros such as SuSE and RH which offer an Everything selection, still do not install all the pkgs. With Mandrake during package selection you can toggle to flat list and manually select every package included in the CDs. Be forewarned the installation will only check pkgs for depends, it will not check for conflicts. So if you select it, it will be installed and you Will end up with apps and programs that will not work. > > Upgrading (which I attempted at work) is unreliable: as had happened > once before, on a previous upgrade, everything seemed to go OK until > the pwconv setp at which point the system seemed to go into a loop - I > despaired after about 15 minutes and hit the reset and decided to do a > complete install instead. Has anyone else had trouble here? Even when 8.0 was released it was recommended that it be done as a Clean install not as an upgrade to 7.2. Since 7.2 both the directory structure and the rpm version have been changed. > > Unfortunately, because of my first point above, I am mow spending > hours (literally) cleaning up and installing everything I missed. I > mean, I clicked on every possible box in the main install process and > still got no command line mail reader installed! > > My biggest beef, though, is: what happened to Zope? It came on the > download disk set for 7.2 but there don't seem to be any 8.2 RPMs > anywhere on the disks or the Mandrake site. > > Come on folks, this is still open source and you used to supply it. An > "upgrade" which doesn't include functionality you used to provide is > no upgrade. Zope was dropped because of its poor security record. Check Quanta which is included in 8.1 and it performs better than Zope. Charles
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