Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:

>hi larry,
>
>im responding to the list on this so that the others
>know you are not really the *troll* we thought you
>were ... 
>
>
>--- Larry Blodgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:44:46 -0600
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>From: Larry Blodgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Dianne,
>>
>>Thanks for your concern.
>>
>>I have an ECS motherboard with a standard RTL
>>ethernet pic card.  The 
>>system has operated successfully on 8.1 and the the
>>three beta 
>>releases of 8.2.  Believe it or not I do think
>>mandrake is one of the 
>>best two distros.  I have actually contributed to
>>the PPC version and 
>>I am a long time paid member of the club.
>>
>>I guess I was little upset when the fresh install
>>took my whole 
>>network down.  
>>
>
>i still dont see how a fresh install could bring a
>whole network down. i dont really see any logical
>explanation for this. im a network engineer. not so
>good but i know the basics. are you saying your whole
>network freezed ? meaning, all the others on your
>network were affected after installing mandrake 8.2?
>how is this server connected to the network? hubs?
>switch? 
>
>>I  would be amazed if a person was
>>not upset at taking 
>>down a network.  It has never happened before.  I
>>have many machines 
>>running 8.1 with good success and I consider
>>Mandrake to be excellent 
>>quality.  That is the reason it shocked me.
>>
>
>yeah, you still didnt give us details of how the
>network went down. 
>
>>Another guy answer me off list and said the problem
>>maybe the expert 
>>install and that he had trouble with it.  
>>
>
>i never had problems with my network when i install
>new distros. i dont think just installing ANY distro
>could bring down the network ... unless your card is
>faulty and *spamming* the network with unwanted
>packets.
>
>>I have
>>always expert 
>>installed due to the special needs of the gcc
>>compiler.
>>
>>The only thing that makes this a special install is
>>the expert mode. 
>>Beyond the install was quick and easy.  The ethernet
>>card was 
>>correctly recognized and everything seemed fine,
>>just as you would 
>>expect and then the network crashed.  I am going to
>>try a recommended 
>>install on a small network.
>>
>
>so, you were able to to install the distro and your
>network connection(just for this machine) crashed? im
>really confused whats the situation there. anyways,
>well be glad to help you if you can give more info.
>
>cheers,
>
>
>
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Sure it is possible to take a network down with a single machine.  There 
is a program called macof which does a neat job if not limited to its 
intended purpose which is to flood the local with random MAC addresses 
until the switches fail open in repeating mode.  

ECS is certainly not gilt-edged hardware, and one can expect more than 
an average share of problems on something made by _any_ member of the 
PCChips group, but I have noticed much better performance on 8.2 with 
most ECS junk than on 8.1 or the betas.

No big changes were allowed from RC1 to final.  Even a new kernel which 
solved a subtle Samba problem concerning shares whose filenames were in 
16-bit or higher character encodings was held out, because we did not 
have time to thoroughly test it.  Based on the behavior you reported, I 
would look for a shrieking network card needing replacement first.  Try 
the network with a different net card, and make sure you kept ACPI 
turned off.  You might also try booting  with

linux noapic

Because it may be a faulty interrupt prioritizer on your board, and 8.2 
DOES use apic in the UP kerbnel (we had too many people with 
multiprocessing rigs populated with Promise or HPT cards who could not 
even install 8.1 and needed apic enabled in the install kernel).

Civileme




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