Thanks for the information, civileme!

For anybody that's interested in testing CD-Roms after burning, I
started this page/project:

http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/Md5sumsAfterBurning

If you test some CD-Roms after downloading and burning, please add your
results to this TWiki page.  (Register at
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration -- make up a
wikiname (like RandyKramer), a password, and tell what country you're
from, IIRC.)  Don't worry too much about formatting -- if it looks out
of wack I'll fix it up next time I review the page.

I'd echo what civileme says about high speed and variable speed drives
-- for me they tend to be unreliable and slower than a good 8, 10, 12,
or 16x.

Randy Kramer

civileme wrote:
> "BAD" and "GOOD" images from home burners is starting to be a pet peeve.
> 
> I have three burners, none Plextor or Yamaha, (which are
> top-of-the-line), and CDs I produce with them _may_ work on all my
> readers.  The slower the burn speed, the more likely this is, in most
> cases, though I have had some burned at 12 x from one burner read by a
> CD Drive that would not read 4x.
> 
> It is NOT logical to assume that the burned media is OK just because it
> reads with a single drive (and especially not if it is with the drive
> that burned it).  Sorry, but eccentricities do creep in in a product
> which is mostly a numbers game.
> 
> On one of my old sites, I went through the calculations to show than an
> 8x CD always spun up was faster in almost all cases than a 52X CD which
> has to spin down to save noise, power, and wear and tear on the media.
>  The cases where a 52X are faster are basically on a long load (NOT an
> install of relatively small packages in succession) which might be
> experienced 5-6 times during install or when using CD-based movies for
> game shots.
> 
> So why do we drive a chunk of plastic with sleeve bearings to such
> outrageous extremes?  I would call it marketing.  Obviously, a 70x is
> better than a 56X which is better than a 52X which is better than a 40x
> which is better than....
> 
> Anyway, real results for real people:
> 
> 48 CDs burned on one drive under conditions identical as possible and
> read on 7 other drives, two of which were burners.
> 
> Drive 1--44 failures--> retired to reserve for duplicating bad drive errors
> (Creative 24X about 3 years old)
> Drive 2--3 failures--> ONE of those read fine on drive 1
> (Wearnes 4x4x24 Burner)
> Drive 3--0 failures
> (NEC PD drive 6x)
> Drive 4 - One failure--And it read on every other drive!
> (Mitsumi DVD about 5 years old-2xDVD or about 10X CD)
> Drive 5-7 failures-->all of those that failed on drives other than Drive
> 1 also failed here
> (OEM for IBM about 4 years old, 8X)
> Drive 6-No Failures
> (Black faced no name 12 X about 4 years in storage before surplusing)
> Drive 7-5 Failures
> (Acer 4x2x32 Burner)
> Tested later--->
> Drive 8 (The drive that burned them)--2 failures, both at 2x burns
> (12x8x40 Burner with no discernible brand)
> 
>  From these results alone, I would advise a _LOT_ of caution before
> concluding a CD is OK because it reads on one system.  I would also
> advise anyone buying new equipment to try for the good stuff because it
> will save in time (a non-renewable resource) what is spent in money (a
> renewable resource).
> 
> Civileme
> 
> >>
> 
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