David,
        it may be a kernel process that's hung up somewhere. Having just had my
machine doing weird things with load, check and see if you have
chkrootkit installed - it hung my machine for quite some time for no
apparent reason. Other than that, send a ps -ef it shows everything.
Maybe with a little analysis something will come up.
Regards,
Angus Beath

On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 22:43, David Savolainen wrote:
> Damian wrote:
> > 
> > El mi�, 27-03-2002 a las 00:30, David Savolainen escribi�:
> > > hello all,
> > > Ever since I upgraded to 8.2, my load average will not drop below 1.00.
> > > >From what I have been able to determine, the load average is a measure
> > > of jobs in the run queue. What job could be permanently stuck in the run
> > > queue?  How do I clear it (whatever "it" is) and bring things back to
> > > normal?  ps does not seem to indicate anything continuously running.  In
> > > fact, kapm-idled seems to be awol.  Any ideas about what could be
> > > happening?
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > David
> > 
> > it's probably a zombie/hung application. run kpm, top, gtop or whatever
> > task manager you like, sort processes by CPU time the are taking,
> > anything above 30% is high. so kill it and see what happens.
> > 
> > anyway, note that prcesses that have the string " idle " in their names
> > are not necesarily taking up processor cycles. for example, if you
> > have a process taking 95% of CPU time called kernel-idle
> >  ( just making the name up ) it just means that CPU is idle 95%
> > of it's time.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
> Thanks for the response.
> When my system only has top and X running, the only processes using cpu
> cycles are top and X.  The precent of cpu cycles usually stays below
> 1%.  Although, Top always shows 1 process running.  Shutting down X does
> not bring my load average below 1.00, so the culprit can't be X or an X
> app.  Even when I have not apps of any kind running, my load aveage
> stays nailed at 1.00.  Attached is the output of ps -aux.  Maybe someone
> can see what I am missing.
> 
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> root         1  0.0  0.1  1412  504 ?        S    Mar26   0:06 init
> root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00 [keventd]
> root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00 [kapmd]
> root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN  Mar26   0:00
> [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
> root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:02 [kswapd]
> root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00 [bdflush]
> root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00
> [kupdated]
> root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<  Mar26   0:00
> [mdrecoveryd]
> root        11  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00
> [kreiserfsd]
> root        65  0.0  0.2  1772  804 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 devfsd
> /dev
> root       278  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00
> [pagebuf_daemon]
> root       603  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00 [khubd]
> root      1020  0.0  0.1  1512  548 ?        S    Mar26   0:01 syslogd
> -m 0
> root      1029  0.0  0.2  2012 1020 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 klogd -2
> daemon    1083  0.0  0.0  1436  284 ?        S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/sbin/atd
> root      1206  0.0  0.4  4848 1880 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 cupsd
> root      1340  0.0  0.1  4204  708 ?        D    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/sbin/amd -F /etc/amd.conf -a /net
> root      1378  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW   Mar26   0:00 [rpciod]
> rpc       1395  0.0  0.1  1544  460 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 portmap
> root      1468  0.0  0.1  1520  584 ?        S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /misc file /etc/auto.misc
> root      1485  0.0  0.1  1520  580 ?        S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /net program /etc/auto.net
> root      1599  0.0  0.1  1452  420 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 gpm -t
> imps2 -m /dev/psaux
> root      1700  0.0  0.1  1620  608 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 crond
> xfs       1741  0.0  1.3  6460 5156 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 xfs -port
> -1 -daemon -droppriv -user xfs
> root      2030  0.0  0.3  2396 1296 tty1     S    Mar26   0:00 login --
> david     
> root      2031  0.0  0.1  1380  408 tty2     S    Mar26   0:00
> /sbin/mingetty tty2
> root      2032  0.0  0.1  1380  408 tty3     S    Mar26   0:00
> /sbin/mingetty tty3
> root      2033  0.0  0.1  1380  408 tty4     S    Mar26   0:00
> /sbin/mingetty tty4
> root      2038  0.0  0.1  1380  408 tty5     S    Mar26   0:00
> /sbin/mingetty tty5
> root      2039  0.0  0.1  1380  408 tty6     S    Mar26   0:00
> /sbin/mingetty tty6
> david     2855  0.0  0.4  2788 1592 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 -bash
> david     2940  0.0  0.3  2420 1200 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/openwin/bin/startx
> david     2957  0.0  0.1  2268  640 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 xinit
> /home/david/.xinitrc -- -deferglyphs 16
> root      2959  0.1  3.0 56724 11728 ?       R    Mar26   0:35
> /etc/X11/X :0 -deferglyphs 16
> david     3053  0.0  0.0  2416    8 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 sh
> /home/david/.xinitrc
> david     3054  0.0  0.1  2976  652 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:01
> /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
> david     3159  0.0  0.2  2588 1140 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmButtons 7 4 /etc/X11/fvwm2/menu 0 8
> david     3161  0.0  0.1  2604  732 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmAnimate 9 4 /etc/X11/fvwm2/menu 0 8
> david     3163  0.0  0.3  3340 1508 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 xclock
> david     3165  0.0  0.2  2496  860 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2/FvwmPager 11 4 /etc/X11/fvwm2/menu 0 8 0 0
> david     3167  0.0  0.4  3604 1624 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 xload
> -jumpscroll 1 -nolabel
> david     3169  0.0  0.4  3756 1692 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 xbiff
> david     3170  0.0  0.3  3284 1472 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 xeyes
> david     4037  0.0  0.2  2408 1128 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00 /bin/sh
> -c    /usr/lib/cups/scripts/cupsWebAdmin 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/nu
> david     4038  0.0  0.3  2412 1160 tty1     S    Mar26   0:00 /bin/sh
> /usr/lib/cups/scripts/cupsWebAdmin
> david     4039  0.0  5.8 29628 22328 tty1    S    Mar26   0:15
> /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator http://localhost:631/
> david     4090  0.0  0.9 17272 3712 tty1     S    Mar26   0:00 (dns
> helper)
> david     7221  0.0  0.6  4248 2676 ?        S    Mar26   0:00 oafd
> --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=11
> david     7262  0.0  0.6  5456 2328 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:20
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm.real -name Terminal -sb -sl 1500 -ls
> david     7271  0.0  0.4  2796 1604 pts/0    S    Mar26   0:00 -bash
> david     7295  0.0  0.4  7448 1824 ?        S    Mar26   0:01
> /usr/bin/medusa-idled
> david     7400  0.0  0.2  5456  836 vc/1     S    Mar26   0:00
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm.real -name Terminal -sb -sl 1500 -ls
> david     7409  0.0  0.1  2796  644 pts/1    S    Mar26   0:00 -bash
> david    15104  0.4  0.2  2116 1032 pts/0    S    05:54   0:09 top
> david    15414  0.7  0.8  5620 3228 vc/1     S    06:30   0:00
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm.real -name Terminal -sb -sl 1500 -ls
> david    15423  0.5  0.4  2796 1604 pts/2    S    06:30   0:00 -bash
> david    15482  0.0  0.2  2840  896 pts/2    R    06:30   0:00 ps -aux
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> David
> 
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