On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:10:39 -0800
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right:

> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:14:36 -0900
> civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote and hopefully I read right:
> 
> > David Rankin wrote:
> > 
> > >You know,
> > >
> > >    I can sympathize. Not because the change is necessarily a
bad
> thing, but
> > >more because of what the change represents. To me the shift
> signifies the
> > >beginning of the end of a wonderful era of camaraderie when the
> linux
> > >community worked together as one to develop the best product we
> could. The
> > >shift represents the realization that capitolism has enetered
the
> linux
> > >frontier and the logical forgeone conclusion and fate of the
era
> of
> > >camaraderie is the same as the fate of the American Buffalo.
> Capitolism is a
> > >great thing, but don't kid yourself it does have its downside.
> > >
> > >    As far a the little operating system that could:
> > >
> > >        Odyssey 7.2
> > >
> > >    [david@Nemesis david]$ uptime
> > >     12:46pm  up 275 days, 22:26,  1 user,  load average: 0.00,
> 0.00, 0.00
> > >
> > Ummm, was that ever more than a myth?  Look at the sniping posts
> here 
> > and the marketing employed by some linux firms and the gathering
> of 
> > people who say, "The best of this distro should be moved to
> xxxyyyzz 
> > distro where my favorite tool wronk-gronk is available," or atr
> the 
> > folks who see a problem reported on the newbie list who say
> > 
> > "Works on Boozer linux"  
> > 
> > when in fact it might work for the poster but I have probably
seen
> 
> > reports from Boozer users who say it doesn't work for them. 
(USB
> is a 
> > good example).
> > 
> > Or look at the posts here and on MandrakeForum which come out
> right 
> > around release time to poison the release like
> > 
> > Is this LSB compatible, yet?
> > (when in fact no distro can really claim to be because the
> official test 
> > software for compatibility isn't even official yet--still beta--
> and the 
> > sniping of our "incompatibility" is in the "gray areas" of the 
> > Filesystem Hierarchical Standard where no clear direction is
given
> and 
> > the interpretation of the other distros is probably as equally
> valid as 
> > ours and all different)
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > Is the situation with left-handed gronklies being mistreated by
> bash fixed?
> > (when in fact it was never broken)
> > 
> > Camaraderie?  
> > 
> > Try to post something favoring GNOME or favoring KDE on
> Mandrakeforum 
> > and watch the list moderators go into a frenzy to keep the forum
> civil, 
> > usually by having to delete posts.  We don't do that unless
things
> get 
> > way too personal.
> > 
> > Well, we're not here to fight FUD with FUD, which is why I
> carefully did 
> > not name distros.   But I would say Microsoft has taught us all
> too well 
> > how to market our product at others expense rather than on its
own
> merits.  
> > 
> > As for the free linux--it is still out there and can likely
never
> be 
> > killed.  It is an alternative to the other OS only for very
> skilled 
> > people, though.  The purpose of most distros are to allow the
> folks with 
> > less skill than that a chance at freedom, certainly not to make
> the 
> > principals wealthy.  Mandrake has been fortunate to have some
oof
> the 
> > best engineers in the world, folks who make me look on in awe,
> folks who 
> > could be making triple what they are almost anywhere else.
> > 
> > But they came to Mandrake to work on free software.
> > 
> > Civileme
> 
> Again you hit the mark with your comments.  It has been said (I
> believe  Carl Sagan but I'm not sure.) That more discoveries have
> been hearalded in with the phrase "Thanks odd" than "Eurika".  As
> long as you hear someone saying "when I do x, y happens" Free (as
in
> un-encumbered) software will exist. 

ooops meant That's odd not Thanks odd..... (alergies can't see the
screen.)
> 
> 
> James
> 
> ----- I am a consumer not a thief and I resent your calling me
that.
> -----
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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