On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 12:48, Rob Gillen wrote: > I suppose that some Linux GUI firewalling tools out there might try to > do some funky things such as loading RPMs for ipchains. Unfortunately, > since I have found most GUI tools to be mostly just a layer on top of > the ipchains/iptables commands, they mostly seemed like a waste of time > compared to just twiddling with a script which I can review and quickly > change when needed. > > I'm not sure that it is too big of a deal to have both the iptables and > ipchains RPMs installed. iptables won't run on 2.2.x kernels, but > ipchains will run on 2.4.x kernels (iptables is superior however). On > Mandrake they are loaded as kernel modules, and you can run only one or > the other. If you try to load both of them, the kernel module loader > (insmod and modprobe) will issue an error. Also, if you have the > ipchains module loaded, use of the iptables command will result in > errors. If you are in doubt as to which module you have loaded, try > running 'lsmod' as root on the command line and look for 'ip_tables'. > > I'm not sure why Mandrake's tools would require ipchains for their > functionality, unless they think you are using the 2.2.x kernel. > Perhaps someone else has some ideas on that one. Rob,
Check out the dumps below. Keep in mind that this system was installed with iptables only; I manually chose all the packages during installation (which you can bet I saved THAT on floppy!! ). Except for the KDE workstation setup option, which put a large number of packages in for itself, which ipchains was not amoungst them. I specifically avoided loading ipchains during installation because I knew I was going with iptables. I suppose you can tell that I agreed with you about iptables being better. ;) I track what's loaded for Mandrake Control Center operations very closely; that's how I noticed that ipchains was installed. I did'nt actually go looking until today, however. [root@tamriel root]# lsmod Module Size Used by ppp_deflate 42208 1 (autoclean) bsd_comp 4576 0 (autoclean) ppp_async 6672 1 (autoclean) ppp_generic 19616 3 (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async] slhc 5136 1 (autoclean) [ppp_generic] NVdriver 945040 10 (autoclean) au8830 143392 2 soundcore 4208 5 [au8830] lp 5808 0 parport_pc 20240 1 parport 24768 1 [lp parport_pc] af_packet 12560 1 (autoclean) iptable_mangle 2048 0 (autoclean) (unused) usb-uhci 21232 0 (unused) usbcore 50752 1 [usb-uhci] 3c59x 25952 1 (autoclean) iptable_filter 2048 0 (autoclean) (unused) ipt_MASQUERADE 1600 0 (autoclean) iptable_nat 16560 0 [ipt_MASQUERADE] ip_tables 11488 6 [iptable_mangle iptable_filter ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat] ip_conntrack 15600 1 [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat] nls_iso8859-1 2880 1 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3632 1 (autoclean) vfat 9968 1 (autoclean) fat 32192 0 (autoclean) [vfat] rtc 5600 1 (autoclean) ext3 63084 5 jbd 39168 5 [ext3] raid1 12792 1 raid0 3496 5 aic7xxx 112748 0 (unused) sd_mod 11572 0 (unused) scsi_mod 91804 2 [aic7xxx sd_mod] [root@tamriel root]# rpm -qa ipchains ipchains-1.3.10-5mdk [root@tamriel root]# uname -rsvp Linux 2.4.8-26mdk #1 Sun Sep 23 17:06:39 CEST 2001 unknown [root@tamriel root]# ______________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the input Rob! LX -- ��������������������������������������������������� Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ ��������������������������������������������������� _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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