[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:29:33 -0800 > From: civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >[Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or I may not see the reply > > in a timely manner. Thanks!] > > > >I recently installed Mandrake 8.2 on an IBM Thinkpad 240. Neither > >pcmcia.img nor network.img recognized my 3Com Megaherta 3CXFE575BT > >10/100 PCMCIA network card, and this laptop doesn't come with a CDROM > >drive (and only a few weird ones work with it) so I was forced to put > >my laptop disk into my desktop, partition it, put the ISO images in a > >partition, then put it back in the laptop and install from there. > > > >When I was done, I had no network: my PCMCIA card was not recognized, > >and none of the normal networking scripts had been installed. > > > >This card works just fine if I boot Windows on the same machine, so it > >isn't bad hardware. > > > WRONG!!!! > > Windows drivers get written for the dodges made to cram all that > hardware into that little space. There IS a hardware situation which is > corrected by a software driver. Unfortunately the driver is probably > secret, proprietary, etc. In any event, it is a minor miracle when the > linux drivers written to standards rather than to specifics work on > laptops at all. > > Sorry, but the attitude displayed here has really been getting to me. I > fear it is a wrong conclusion derived from right information, just not > enough right information. > >Um... > >Do you fail to understand that there are numerous reports that >pcmcia-cs should, and has, worked with this card in other people's >machines? This strongly implies that it should have worked for >mine---and demonstrating correct operation under Windows therefore >removes one possibility, namely that either the laptop or the card >is somehow defective compared to others of the same model. > >Perhaps you might want to do some research first, such as checking >the "supported cards" section of the PCMCIA HOWTO in the pcmcia-cs >release. Failure to do so means that you don't understand the point >I'm trying to make, and flaming me out of ignorance is not a helpful >response. If you -don't- want to do the research first, but don't >understand what's going on, then perhaps keeping silent would be the >most effective strategy, so as not to drown out others' attempts to >be constructive. > Ummm, OK. We used to have a separate kernel package kernel-pcmcia. It is now integrated, but the driver modules are as you see them in
file:/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia Each may unify over several cards, but it appears that yours is not one of them. If there are driver sources, well downloading them may be required along with cd /usr/src/linux make mrproper make modules and a move of the module to that directory. Of course if something unusual has been done on your particular model of notebook, then it may not work even after that. We held off putting lm_sensors completely into the kernel while other distros did so because on several models of IBM notebooks, use of lm_sensors to check battery power is your last act before a factory return for a new motherboard. (600, 660, 770, A20, and possibly several others). For some odd reason a soldered-in PROM which drives the I2C bus on those models and isn't supposed to be on-board programmable gets overwritten by lm_sensors. Even now, it is not installed by default and our version of KDE which tries to put in the library without loading lm_sensors has its "teeth" pulled. I apologize for the flame. Mea culpa. The only explanation I have was I had been working the Mandrakeexpert site for several hours and it struck me as the same attitude. Obviously you knew what you were doing. Of course the most constructive apology I can make is the above information. Civileme
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