On Thu, 2 May 2002 10:44:23 -0600
Ken Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'll comment on this one since it was my start.  But in another
e-mail You noted that all the yellow lights are solid.  On my Switch
in my house (4 comps) the DX/Collision light is always lit even when
only one box is connected. (regardless of which box it is.)  Seems
to be the nature of some Switches. (The manual says a solid light is
ok a flashing one is a sign of collisions.) You might try unplugging
one box at a time (start with the Micron) and see if the net picks
up speed.  If not plug it in and go to the next box.  (unplug on the
hub that way you eliminate the wire as well and it's less crawling
on the floor.) Do a TCP Dump on the network when nothing is going on
expect turned on boxes.  If you see a lot of traffic from one box...
you've found your victim. Traffic should be minimal.  I believe ME
and 2000 still pole the system periodically to say "I'm here" that
should be all the traffic you have.

James

> On Wednesday 01 May 2002 11:00 pm, you wrote:
> > Ken are some of the nics 10mb and some 100?  
> Yup, quite a mix of systems and cards.
> Hmmmmmmmm, Now that I think on it a bit, most of the older systems
> have been changed out and should all have 10/100 NIC's in them
> except for one.
> 
> >If the hub isn't a true switching hub it can't handle the
> >difference and the network will  keep slowing down to try and
> >accommodate the slowest box. Switch is a LinkSys 8 port.
> I plan to replace it with a known good hub and see what happens.
> 
> >Second make sure none of the boxes are plugged into port one if
> >you have the crossover port connected these two are linked
> >together and if you have 2 boxes going into these ports all kinds
> >of fun stuff happens.
> I don't have the crossover port used. No hubs or other switches in
> the network.
> > James
> 
> >
> > On Wed, 1 May 2002 11:35:52 -0600
> >
> > Ken Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > I'm working with a 6 computer network that is doing some very
> > > wierd things.....
> > > First a bit of history:
> > > Current O/S's Win98, WinME, Win XP, Linux Mandrake 8.1.
> > > The original network was smaller and set up using Novell.
> > > NIC's on the older computers are DEC Chip combo's, some even
> > > have the 25 pin AUWI (?sp) port and were all using 50 ohm coax
> > > connections. The owner hired a "network specialist" to set it
> > > up to use"Windows Networking". This fellow put in a LinkSys 8
> > > port switch, and ran CAT 5 cable around the baseboards of the
> > > office, installed all available network protocols (NetBui,
> > > TCP, Netbios/IPX&etc.)... TCP/IP was set up using DHCP on all
> > > machines and no IP ranges set.  Some of the machines, then,
> > > were found using NetBUI, some on IPX/SPX and some with TCP/IP.
> > > I found this out by removing each protocol in turn except for
> > > TCP/IP. OK, but it worked and he was kinda happy except the
> > > network was SLOW, A factory re-furbed Micron PIII 800 with
> > > onboard NIC was used as the "file server" and all the network
> > > programs data paths set to it. Most of the machines on the
> > > network could log on to each other in an accecptable time (3-4
> > > seconds) but the Micron would take over 1minuet to log on to
> > > any other machine (open Network Neighborhood and wait). But
> > > other machines found the Micron OK and could pull files off it
> > > as fast as any other. About now you're asking what has this
> > > got to do with a Mandrake Mailing List ! ! Read on folks, it
> > > get's better.. Dumb me, I said "I can fix that and use a Linux
> > > box as a file server"... First I removed all un-needed
> > > protocols and set up static IP address for each system. No
> > > speed improvement ! !. The rest of the network seemed usable
> > > but the Micron was still very slow, my reaction was naturally
> > > to blame the Micron. I brougt it to my service department and
> > > performed a complete O/S teardown and re-install (Win98se),
> > > set it up on my network and tested it hard using the same
> > > program he uses PLUS some very large file transferes (1Gb and
> > > over), It worked like a charm -fast- reliable&etc. Put it back
> > > in service and got him back to work. At this point the network
> > > seemed perfect, no hang ups and speed was good. Next thing was
> > > to put together a Linux box to use as a file server. Used a
> > > Super 7 MoBo, K6-2 350 CPU 3.2Gb HDD and 196Mb mem, installed
> > > Mandrake 8.1 on it. KDE is available but I start it in RL 3
> > > and don't log in as anyone, just let the screen blank and
> > > forget it.. He has no security concerns (read don't want to be
> > > bothered) so MSEC is set to "poor". The Mandrake machine is
> > > not on the internet and they only go online with the others to
> > > get credit reports and then off right away, total time for
> > > each instance less than 10 min. Again I set the box up on my
> > > network and ran it "'till it dropped" NO problemo...... Durn
> > > thing was perfect......... Put the Linux box in service,
> > > changed the data path's to it and walked out very self
> > > satisfied... The next day I was "hangin' out" and one of the
> > > systems locked, the salesman tried to reboot it and it said
> > > "can't find boot record on IDE0" EH? Wot's this?
> > > I looked at it and Nope nuthin', ran "FDISK" and there was NO
> > > partition defined. Brought the machine to my service
> > > department and diagnosed it with bad memory, (it wouldn't even
> > > trigger the video until I replaced the mem mdule) replaced the
> > > mem module, re-installed WinME, ran the same tests as with the
> > > other ones and put it back in service. Whew, things were
> > > working good. (I was a bit dis-satisfied because I still
> > > couldn't accout for the missing partition) The owner calls me
> > > 3 days later saying he can't get his"backup" to transfer over
> > > the network, it says "network resource not available" about
> > > 75% through the transfer (about 30Mb file size). I thought "
> > > he just don't remember how I showed him to do it" and went out
> > > to see what had gone wrong. NOW the whole network is slow, the
> > > Micron being the slowest but not substantially so. Can't pull
> > > a large file from any given machine to any other and have some
> > > file corruption on the Linux box (I can see the file name but
> > > the program can't run the executible or unzip one it needs) I
> > > have looked at everything I can think of trying to figure out
> > > what in the world went wrong, I'm leaning towards interference
> > > on the cables but really don't know what to think at this
> > > point. After a complete re-make of the network, running fine
> > > for about a week, it's worse than it was when I started.
> > > Ideas, anyone????-- 
> Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos
> Payette, Idaho
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.nwaa.com
> Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts.
> 
> Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You
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> 
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