> been shutdown that long before. 'Sides, if a HDD can't stand to be 
> off, get 'cold' (room temp), then restart .... it's defective IMO. 

Well, yeah, that's self-evident :). Besides, most (non-Linux) usage
of the drives feature frequent powerup/shutdown cycles, so that
should be nothing new.

>      Also, FWIW, when I called IBM for an RMA, I asked if there were 
> known issues with FS's other than vfat, specifically ResierFS and 

Why should there be? The drive would just access data differently than
if the same data were accessed by Windows.

> consistently gets 40mb/sec.    ....and sells for damn near half what 
> I paid for that IBM just 10 months ago, and it's 10GB bigger.

My 30 meg deskstar (purchased 10/2000) is still humming very nicely.
I haven't managed to fill it up yet :). I have had very little 
success with seagates, but the last seagate I bought was back in around
1991 :(. My older Maxtor drive lasted nearly 7 years before I took it
out - I probably could plug it back in now and it would still work like
it was brand new (ca. 1993 brand new, but wtf). My other drive (1.6 gig
maxtor) is pretty clean, but there have been one or two bad spots on the
drive surface since I got it back in 1996, so right now I'm just using it
for /var.

Everything is reiserfs here, except for /var, which is ext3, because I
couldn't figure out how to use badblocks in conjuction with reiserfs, and
mkreiserfs doesn't seem to have a bad block checking option. 

>     Tom Brinkman                    Corpus Christi, Texas



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