[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Tue, 21 May 2002, Kirtis B wrote:
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>>I'm not really sure why you prefer mp3's over ogg's though.  Ogg is
>>a superior format in many ways.
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>Some standalone players only play mp3s. 
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And given the recent back and forth between someone who was working on 
an open fixed point implementation of an ogg decoder, and the ogg 
developers themselves, this doesn't sound like its going to change in a 
hurry.  It definately sounded to me like the vorbis crew were wielding 
their control over the specifications to maintain monopolistic control 
over their proprietery fixed point decoder (which I believe the key 
component which would allow a portable player company to include ogg 
support in their firmware).  People of course argued that the vorbis 
folks had some right to their 'bread and butter', but IMO it definately 
sounded sleazy how they were slacking on the specs, which conveniently 
is giving their own proprietary product a massive headstart in the 
market.  I wouldn't mind nearly so much if they even openly admitted 
that thats what they were doing, but they didn't.

Yes, on my PC, oggs are definately superiour to mp3's, but realistically 
that doesn't matter.  Disk is so cheap these days I think I'll rerip to 
a lossless format like shorten(.shn) anyway.  And for my rio800, well, I 
aint got no choice but to stretch the law and claim that since I have a 
licence to an mp3 decoder in windows software that I'm not using, that 
I'm allowed to use lame.  Personally I think it would be hella cool if 
someone wrote a linux mp3 encoder 'wrapper', which took as input a 
windows encoder binary (free musicmatch, etc...).  That would IMO get 
around the business of their being no reasonably priced licence for a 
linux mp3 encoder.

-dmc



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