Thanks for the reply Todd. Is the cooker kernel going to break anything else in my system? Will all my apps and stuff work? I have always been wary of running a cooker kernel. Can you shed any light here?
Darren On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 10:06, Todd Lyons wrote: > I will start this reply with the following sweeping statement: > If you buy hardware that's so new that kernel support is only just > appearing, then you should expect some things not to work to full > potential in a distro that's now 4 months old (and counting). > > You obviously are very experienced with Linux in general, so I don't > intend this to be condescending, but it's good dialogue for others who > might want to provide perspective. > > Darren King wrote on Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:42:45AM +1000 : > > > I just upgraded my machine from a k6-2 400 with a super 7 board to a > > ahtlon 1700xp with a kt333 board and now my system is mucho unstable. > > Familiar with that one. Go look in /proc/ide/via and make sure that > it's getting the full transfer rate on your drives. If not, the answer > will probably be in /proc/ide/hda/settings. Look at the following > edited output: > [root@fiji /home/todd/RPM/SPECS]# cat /proc/ide/hda/settings > name value min max mode > ---- ----- --- --- ---- > ide_scsi 0 0 1 rw > io_32bit 1 0 3 rw > pio_mode write-only 0 255 w > slow 0 0 1 rw > using_dma 1 0 1 rw > > The absolute most important one in is the last line. If you have > using_dma showing up as zero, that means that the kernel doesn't > recognize your IDE Chipset as an IDE chipset that's capable of doing > UDMA modes, so it just treats it like regular IDE. Another way to tell > this is using hdparm -t /dev/hda (use whatever device letter is required > for your system). The only solution is to get a newer kernel. In > Mandrake, your only real option is to install a Cooker kernel. > > > It's gotten to the point where I am very frustrated with Mandrake and > > even wondering about how good Linux really is. After years (I started > > before the kernel was up to 1.0) of supporting Linux, I have watched > > windows become easier to use and more stable. Windows XP installs new > > drivers for me without even asking me for anything. It just works. But > > I love the power of Linux and the applications. > > > > Here's the list of my problems. > > > > 1. When I shutdown, it goes through the normal routine and then tells me > > to power the machine down. Before the upgrade, it would power down the > > machine for me....now I have manually use the power button. > > Try a Cooker kernel. Get it from the Cooker mirrors. > > > 2. No sound. I am still working on this one. sndconfig is useless. It > > finds my sound card and then tries to play a sound. It cant so it just > > hangs there and I never get to actually configure the sound card to fix > > the problem. That's pretty pathetic for a real os....the config tool > > wont config! > > Try a Cooker kernel. Get it from the Cooker mirrors. The sound > configuration utilties in 8.2 are 4 months old now, so you'll have to > configure it by hand. Try both OSS and ALSA. > > > 3. CD burning on my scsi plextor is now very unstable. I have to burn > > at 1x or the burn fails. The burner is the only device in the scsi > > chain. The scsi card is sharing an IRQ with 2 ethernet cards and the > > sound card but of source I cant configure the sound card (see above) to > > change the IRQ. > > Install the updates that are on the update mirrors. The version of > cdrecord that shipped with 8.2 had a problem that is fixed in the > updates. > > > These are not the problems users should put up with from a real > > operating system. This is mickey mouse stuff. Like I said before, I > > run windows XP on my other system...I add new hardware, it configures it > > for me, no problem. I don't mind configuring hardware myself but as you > > can see above, I would if I could. > > I do agree that "it just works" applies in many cases with Windows. If > we could get those same manufacturers to either write their own open > source support for their products just like the windows drivers they do > write OR provide the specs to the hardware and let the community write > the drivers. Usually it has to be reverse engineered. > > > In conclusion, I think the lesson learned here is: > > When upgrading major hardware components such as motherboards, REINSTALL > > the operating system. It's sad but at least with Mandrake 8.2, it's > > true. > > And are you claiming this is not true for Windows? It is, so why are > you listing that as a detraction for Linux and not for Windows? > > Second, you do not need to reinstall the OS, you need only rerun your > configuration programs. "I can't login because I have a different > graphic card" is not wholly accurate. Use lilo to boot to runlevel 3 or > runlevel 1 and run your configuration utilities (or use failsafe). > > Blue skies... Todd > -- > Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ > UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because > that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn > Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-21mdk
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