On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 08:29, Mark Weaver wrote:
> Dale Huckeby wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Todd Lyons wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>David Guntner wrote on Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 08:33:02PM -0700 :
> >>
> >>
> >>>I was wondering about that myself.  Thanks for the information, I'll
> >>>give that a try.  But I definitely agree with Toshiro; it's a major
> >>>step *backwards*.  The rpmdrake that comes with 9.0 is amazingly
> >>
> >>Instead of a seperately written program hooking into both urpm and rpm
> >>libs, there is anow a series of programs hooking into the urpm libs.
> >>Simpler to maintain and better compatibility.  It is indeed a step
> >>forward from the programmer side of things.  From the user side of
> >>things, it could be perceived as a step backwards.  Once you learn the
> >>different methods and get used to it, you'll realize that it is a much
> >>better and more stable product.
> > 
> > 
> >   Is the end-user's convenience less important than the programmer's?
> > Who is the product being developed for, anyway?  Although the new version
> > is pretty, and I appreciate that it's easier for the programmer, I too
> > think it's a step backward in functionality for the actual user.  I might
> > change my mind, but so far I *don't* think it's a better product.  
> > 
> > Dale Huckeby
> 
> For my two cents, as both a programmer and an end-user, I love the way 
> 9.0 handles package installation and uninstallation. My hat is off to 
> the folks at Mandrake. I've seen RedHat 8.0 and as far as I'm concerned 
> Mandrake is miles ahead of catering to the end-user and the administrator.
> 
> Mark

Mark you've got that right.... I've been on the phone all morning trying
to get some stuff running at a customer site who insists on RH 7.3.  We
are having to jump through hoops to do things as simple as get php
running simply because RH didn't bother to make sure that all the needed
rpms to run a server are included on their CD's (btw they even mention
in the docs the name of the rpms they don't include.... mentioned as if
they were included *sigh*)  

James

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