Silly Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> Vox wrote on Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:14:12PM -0500 :
>> 
>> Silly Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> >> PD: no need to CC me on your replies, my mail program highlights any
>> >> emails that are answers to my own emails.
>> > Can you put a screenshot somewhere?  I'd like to see that.  I see you're
>> > using gnus, so it shouldn't be impossible to make mutt do that as
>> > well.
>>   http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/vox/shot_09-10-02_180405.jpg
>
> Very nice, but I only see three messages.  And what's the third pane on
> the right top for?  It only has my name in it and can't quite figure out
> what it's supposed to be doing.

  Ok, this shot is better...that one only was showing 3 msgs because
  that was all there was in this ml at the time :)  This is with
  a.o.l.mandrake which has more traffic, at least in the last 2hr :)

  http://people.gnulinux.org.mx/vox/shot_09-10-02_210637.jpg

  The pane on the top right is the Tree view...it shows the
  distribution of a thread, who answered to who (according to the
  References header). That way you know what's going with ease...it's
  one of the things I love the most about gnus, actually :)

>>   The top line is a normal-scored (0 points) thread, goes white and
>>   each mail in it gets auto-expunged (deleted) when it gets to be 7
>>   days old.
>
> Straightforward.  I do scoring myself, but I don't take any action based
> on that score yet.  If I were to do auto-expunging, I would probably do
> it after 30 or 45 days.  I like to keep a rather large backlog of
> Cooker.  It's much faster to look through that than to look through the
> online archives.

  On that I agree. The only thing is...when something is important to
  me, it gets saved for longer :) Usually mail that manages to get
  alive for a month ends up in a CD (I have CDs with mail from 1989
  that I transfered from floppies...info packrat that I am :)

>>   Second line (your mail) is a highest-scored thread, because a) it
>>   has posts by me and b) all @mandrakesoft.com authors get automatic
>>   high score in all my mdk mailing lists (so I know who has the last
>>   word :) So both scores get added to get to highest-score (anything
>>   over 9,000 points)
>
> Ok, that makes a little bit of sense.  To see what mine looks like,
> take a look at http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/mutt.html and
> click on the three links for the Sample Screen Shots.  You'll also

  I guess the ones with the sL are the ones with scores, right?

> note that you and Ben were not scored at the time that I made those
> screenshots. Both of you are now :) 

  Hehehe I've been talking too much lately <chuckle> :) Hadn't been
  this active since the 7.x cooker times :)

> Plus I also score in single digits.  

  I used to do that too, back when I was scoring by hand...but with
  adaptive scoring (gnus scores stuff according to what I do with the
  mail instead of me giving it scores), I've found it's a lot more
  accurate to what I think when I use high numbers.

> I think I WILL adjust the highlighting based on score though.  That
> certainly helps to identify interesting posts (ie Linus, AC, Ingo,
> etc)

  Indeed...scoring+highlighting makes it a lot easier to go through
  the 900+ emails/newsposts I go through every day :)

>>   Third line is a high-score (between 3,000 and 9,000 points) thread
>>   because I've posted to it.
>
> I think I get it.  It's only showing threads, not individual
> messages.

  Actually, in that shot it was single-email threads. There was only 3
  emails in the folder because it was the 4th or 5th visit to the
  folder in the same hour :)

> I would be tempted to call that a "folded" view.  Mutt has the ability
> to expand/collapse threads, however, the score it shows is only of the
> original message of the thread.  It doesn't seem to let the top score
> through as the predominant score of the thread (ie, yours seems to be
> scoring threads, whereas mutt only seems to score individual
> messages...I'll have to look more into that...maybe those developers
> aren't so crazy after all for using gnus :)

  I do score by individual mails, not by thread. But you can do thread
  scoring too, or use both at the same time. What I do is:

  a) Score on authors
  b) Score on thread

  And then each email gets highlighted according to the total score it
  gets. For instance, there are authors that have high scores
  (*@mandrakesoft.com for example) and that get highlighted even in
  threads that I'm not paying attention to and have negative
  scores. When that happens, the whole thread gets marked as
  I-don't-care, except for the mail from the mdk people. That way I
  get a chance to see what's going on in the thread without having to
  go through it all :)

>>   Uninteresting threads (those I've marked read without opening) get
>>   negative scores and are colored an ugly brown.
>
> Which I don't see any of those.

  You see em in the new shot now :)

>>   Posts with between 0 and 3,000 points gets the same color as a 0
>>   points thread, but doesn't get auto-expunged (deleted) when the
>>   messages get over 7 days old. Depending on the score, it gets
>>   deleted after 1 month, 2 months or never.
>>   All of this scoring is done automatically as I read, of course :)
>>   Vox, who loves his gnus :)
>
> If I wasn't such a happy vi user, I'd try it out.  But I have such a
> hard time navigating in emacs because I'm so comfortable with vi.

  Viper is for people like you...viper is the vi-keys mode for
  emacs...actually, the main gnus developer is a viper user :)

  Vox, who thinks that vi* usage can be cured :)

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