too right - I just gave up waiting around for Mandrake to make it easy for
them to receive $$$ and just stuck with the download version - because by
the time it finally arrives in Australia it's probably out of date anyway.

And I never received a reply to my 15 or so emails regarding Mandrake Club
and how to pay for it from Australia either.

Mandrake really need to try harder if they want to remain financially
healthy (indeed I hope they still are!)

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:10 PM
To: Vincent Danen
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft


Hi Vincent,

> And I thank you for that, James.  The issue at this instant in time, if 
> we could freeze on today, is not new users; it's existing users that 
> aren't doing their part (freeloaders if you will).  Mandrake Linux is 
> perhaps one of the most popular Linux distributions out there, but you'd 
> never know it in terms of money.  One of out greatest strengths and, 
> inevitably, our greatest weaknesses, is allowing the entire distro to be 
> downloaded for nothing.  Don't tell me that people out there don't take 
> advantage of this and continue to download ISOs and use Mandrake all 
> over the place without contributing a dime.  These are the same people 
> who will whine and complain if Mandrake ceases to exist, or who 
> currently scream and yell if something doesn't work to their liking.
> 
> I don't know.  Maybe we need to go with SuSE's model and allow a one ISO 
> demo a few months after release to prevent people from doing this.  
>  Then again, who wants to see Mandrake become another SuSE?  I think the 
> fact that Mandrake does this is, again, it's greatest strength and I'd 
> hate to see that change as I think it would change the entire philosophy 
> of the company.  So is that really an option?  I hope not.

I noticed this issue, it is confounded by the fact that mdkstore
releases are upto 1 month after the free (as in beer) downloads that I
often have to take (even though i have an order in the post).

Others might just not bother with the purchase of a box set if they
download it, i've downloaded ISO's for several releases.

If mdk can either speed up the release of cds in the shop or delay the 
ISO download release they can make 20% more cash I am sure.

Please pass on my ideas

Regards and happy new year


JG




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