On Wednesday 08 January 2003 01:03 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:21:25 -0600 David Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:33:51 -0600 "David Rankin"
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I have been struggling with a weird message lately that hasn't
> > > > appeared over the past 2 years until the past few weeks. I don't
> > > > have any clue as to what this is actually telling me, but I would
> > > > suspect that it may be the initial gasps of a dying LNE100TX network
> > > > card (tulip driver). It may only show up once or twice every week.
> > > > However, with my very limited kernel error message understanding,
> > > > I'm at a loss. So experts -- Chime in!
> > > >
> > > > Setup:
> > > >
> > > > LM 7.2 Odyssey (2.2.19 kernel)
> > > > Abit Kt7 mb
> > > > AMD T-bird 800
> > > > Linksys LNE100TX
> > > > (No hardware changes since Jan, 2001)
> > >
> > > Does the 'no changes' comment also apply to all the connected systems
> > > in the office?  Is anyone using a new app on the non-Linux boxes?  Was
> > > there a storm just before this problem started? (One of my LinkSys
> > > ports was zapped by lightning induction -- the connected box was not
> > > affected)
> >
> > Well, this is interesting because there was one hell of a lightning
> > storm several days before this problem appeared. The only reason I don't
> > think this correlates is because the errors didn't appear until a few
> > days after.
> >
> > What about moisture around the CAT5 cables. Our office is an older
> > structure that sits on pier and beam with the CAT5 run underneath. After
> > the storm, it is possible the CAT5 was in a very moist environment. The
> > CAT5 insulation should be good on all the cables. Has anyone heard of
> > moisture around cables causing this type of problem?
>
> I experienced those Texas storms for a few years, so I know what you
> mean... :^)
>
> Moisture would change resistance/capacitance characteristics of the cable;
> especially if rodents got at the cable...
>
> While the cable is wet, the real problems could show up as it started to
> dry (especially if sitting on the ground) since the ratio of
> minerals:water would go up as the cable dried.  Speculation; but a quick
> examination of the cables would eliminate/confirm that possibility.
>
> Similar problems can happen if the cable was punctured by a staple during
> installation, and the staple is rusting inside the cable.
Yep, and from accumulated effects of age and temp change and gamma radiation 
drying out the insulation. you gots to have _GooD_ cables.



> HTH,
> Pierre
>
> > > > Network:
> > > >
> > > > server -> 8 port C-net hub [7 out to LAN 1 to] -> 4 port Linksys
> > > > cable/dsl router [1 LAN connection] -> (the rest of the
> > > > world/internet)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No problems for over 580 days. Since 12/26/02 I have received the
> > > > following message with varying frequency. It really hung on the
> > > > 12/26, but after that I only see the message once maybe twice a day
> > > > or week?
> > > >
> > > > Jan  3 11:28:22 Nemesis kernel: eth0: Tx hung, 1191883 vs. 1191882.
> > > > Jan  3 11:28:22 Nemesis kernel: eth0: PNIC2 transmit timed out,
> > > > status e4000000, CSR6/7 01000000 / effffbff
> > > > CSR12 40a1d0cc, resetting...
> > > >
> > > > OK, this is Jan 7 and I haven't had the message since the 3rd, so:
> > > >
> > > > What in the heck does this error mean? Google says that it may be a
> > > > tulip driver error, but that is no explaination as to why I would go
> > > > 500+ days without the error and then have it magically (or a a
> > > > result of witchcraft) appear? Does it smell like a hardware problem?
> > > > When it occurs, I have noticed that my C-net 8 port hub acts flakey.
> > > > After I disconnect all the clients, reset the modem, reset the
> > > > router, reset the hub -- everything seems OK. So what gives? (I
> > > > generally do a..../init.d/network restart just to be on the safe
> > > > side) Which resets without any errors.
> > > >
> > > > My real question is what in the hell is an: eth0: Tx hung message
> > > > mean? What does the eth0: PNIC2 message mean? Docos and info is
> > > > sparse on this message. So, has anyone else got a clue as to what
> > > > I'm dealing with?
> > >
> > > This is gonna require the 7.2 sources (which I no longer have) and a
> > > read of the code -- that was the only source of docs that helped when
> > > I had eepro10 problems on 7.2...
> > >
> > > > As always, any wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Running ethereal won't show such a low level problem; but it might
> > > provide a clue if a bug is triggered by something on the LAN
> > > condisdering you are using a hub...
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
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