On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 18:24, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Sunday 12 January 2003 00:47, Lorne wrote:
> > That is what I think. The reason I want to speak to him. I am not in the
> > security section. I'm trying. I am positive they are in way over their
> > heads and I told him it wasn't a matter if but when we got hacked. The sad
> > part is, they probably won't know it when they do, if the hacker is smart.
> 
> Trouble is that as long as you're trying to get heard, they'll see you as a 
> threat. Meaning they (the security dep.)'ll be using all their energy to 
> fight you instead of the cracker they've never ever felt before.
> 
> Don't ever try to fight ignorants face to face, play along and be their 
> advisor in "hard times".
> It's the only way, or be prepared to stick a lot of energy and time in 
> battling their "back to the wall" tactics. You'll probably lose any which 
> way!
> 
> Good luck,
> HarM

HarM...

  Good bad or indifferent, you are unfortunately right. The best move in
my opinion is to make your proposal in writing (so that you have a
copy.) to the head of security... Then when he botches it... You are
ahead.. If he likes what you suggest, then HE gets to go to the boss and
win.... either way. You win.

James



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