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Bill, I wish I would have seen the first post.  I apparently skipped
over it when browsing.

Bill Witherspoon wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:51:51PM -0500 :
> 
> Here's what I think I've learned (please correct me):
> 1) Mutt doesn't have any SMTP code (although oddly it appears that
> the Windows very does??)

That is correct.  Mutt is a MUA (Mail User Agent).  It allows you to
read mail.  It allows you to reply to mail and hand it off to a local
MTA (Mail Transfer Agent).  That's pretty much it.

> 2) sendmail/postfix/qmail/exim - full blown mail servers that for
> my single workstation seems a bit overblown. They also appear to
> like having a 'real' domain names to work with. 

Mutt is built with the old unix mentality of "take a lot of small
programs that do one job and one job well and string their output
together for the desired output".  In mutt, that is preserved because
you use fetchmail to get the messages, which hands it off to procmail to
filter the messages.  Procmail is called a Mail Delivery Agent (MDA).
Then mutt reads it, and mutt can reply to mail or send new mail by
handing it off to a local MTA.

> 3) gui apps that require XFree86 like Kmail/Sylpheed that do
> pop/imap reading, and smtp/auth sending. Perfect if I run a Gui.

And bloated.

> 4) some simple daemons that do smtp like nullmailer, but do
> not do smtp/auth. (There's an open invitation to add that to
> nullmailer (if you're good at C++) on their mailing list).

[todd@fiji ~]$ rpm -qpi
/work/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/ssmtp-2.60.3-1mdk.src.rpm 
Name        : ssmtp                        Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version     : 2.60.3                            Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release     : 1mdk                          Build Date: Sat Dec 28 04:23:40 2002
Install date: (not installed)               Build Host: klama.mandrake.org
Group       : System/Servers                Source RPM: (none)
Size        : 111532                           License: GPL
Packager    : Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL         : http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/ssmtp.html
Summary     : A minimal mail-transfer agent which forwards mail to an 
              SMTP server.
Description : This is sSMTP, a program that replaces sendmail on 
              workstations that should send their mail via the 
              departmental mailhub from which they pick up their 
              mail (via pop, imap, rsmtp, pop_fetch, NFS... or 
              the like).  This program accepts mail and sends it 
              to the mailhub, optionally replacing the domain in 
              the From: line with a different one.

This is from my cooker box, but it was also in 9.0 and 8.2 contribs.  If
it's not on your CD's, then download it from any 9.0 contrib mirror.

> > >I'm trying to set up the following:
> > >1) fetchmail getting my POP mail from my ISP.
> > >2) Using procmail to filter, and deliver into my local mailbox.
> > >3) Using Mutt to read it....
4) Using some MTA to send it

http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/mutt.html

Blue skies...                   todd
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