On Thursday 16 January 2003 08:04 am, T E wrote: > Er sorry Vincent if I confused you. I guess I have > been misunderstanding this whole Chapter 11 ordeal... > I was under the false impression that Mandrake was > disappearing. > > Lorne, I know what you mean about docs!! Has any one > else out there found a suitable doc or must we infact > shell out the $2,000? I did however find this for SNF > so maybe it's close enough: > > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/ > > BTW, how has your implementation of MNF been coming? > Still "kicking your butt"? > It has been a week from hell. Working long hours and no time after work to play with it. I will try to start again this weekend. I'll go take a look see on the docs.
I think that if they want acceptance of their product, then need to get folks like us singing the praises of it. Perhaps if they want it to remain a purely commercial product, that is fine, but maybe they need to consider crippleware that expires after 90 days or something. That wouldn't work for me, but to put the product out there with no docs doesn't seem to do it. :) > I seem to have run into a weird problem after I try to > configure MNF: I will log out then attempt to log back > in (naturally thru the web interface) and I receive a > return to the login screen with an error. This error > is as follows: > > Cookies Not Found > > I've noticed I'm not the only one having this problem > and I chimed in on that fact at alt.os.linux.mandrake > ...you guys have any ideas on this one? > I really haven't. I have had a problem when the key changes from a re-install etc, but a fellow can usually get around that fairly easily. > In closing, I think we need to get more dialog going > on this product. It appears to have massive > potential, yet little recognition, wouldn't you agree? > > --- Lorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 02:32 am, JP wrote: > > > T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes op schoal um > > > > hej te kinne schrieve: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > I highly recommend the newer one. I don't > > > > believe > > > > > > > there is any time bomb, and > > > > > I'm not sure if they require money after 6 > > > > months, > > > > > > > although it is certainly > > > > > worth what ever it is they charge. I > > > > subscribe, so > > > > > > > haven't actually purchased > > > > > a shrink wrap one. I think they get more money > > > > by > > > > > > > just donating so that is > > > > > what I did. > > > > > > > > Here is part of the reason why I believe there > > > > are > > > > > > only 6 months to register: I log into MNF and am > > > > greated with this text: > > > > > > > > "UPDATES: Don't forget to register your firewall > > > > to > > > > > > receive your free updates for 6 months. These > > > > updates > > > > > > are critical to keep your security product up to > > > > date > > > > > > and to maintain a high security level. These > > > > updates > > > > > > consist of improvements to most features, > > > > security > > > > > > fixes and more." > > > > > > > > Like I said updates are critical. And while > > > > this > > > > > > product may be worth every one of the 200,000 > > > > pennies > > > > > > spent on it, I need a FREE product since I > > > > basically > > > > > > have a 0 penny budget at the moment. > > > > > > > > It seems to me that if updates for SNF are free > > > > that > > > > > > may be the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I'd > > > > love to > > > > > > go with MNF, but I can't afford the price at the > > > > moment and will need eternal updates. > > > > > > it seems as if they try to get people to pay for > > > > the mnf updates, however, > > > > > I dont think you will have to do so in order to > > > > get the updates. > > > > > first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates > > > > mirror and there is a > > > > > seperate directory for mnf, that one could simply > > > > use (add to urpmi etc.) > > > > > without mandrake even knowing it. > > > > > > second, this mnf is basically a (heavily modified > > > > and stripped down) > > > > > version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are > > > > freely available. see also > > > > > snf, which has a similar relationship to 7.2, with > > > > many packages in the > > > > > snf update directory being a simlink to the 7.2 > > > > updates. > > > > > all in all a rather unclear situation, as by > > > > reading the mandrake website > > > > > one would think you have to pay for security > > > > updates. > > > > > JP > > > > To make matters even weirder there is no > > documentation for it!?!??! It says if > > you didn't get documentation with it, to purchase a > > copy or something to that > > affect. MNF is kicking my butt! > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com
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