Yep, I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and that as such had no obligations to be a server..
I wasn't totally aware of that, I have seen blurb on the website about how mandrake makes good servers.. and that many of the examples that mandrake give in their newsletters are about mandrake as servers... As sad as it is to me,, I will probably swap to redhat or debian for servers in future, because a reload every 18 months is alittle to much for me.. we have 20 servers in our system.. and thats alot of work, not to mention that I have setup many small business's with mandrake 8.1/8.1 and 9.0 boxes... all of which don't have a long lifespan ahead.. I can only hope that when mandrake gets back in the black they will rethink this to some degree.. One of the reasons I have been parading to our dept heads that linux is better then winsucks is the longevity of the product... The only way to really get that now it seems.. is to use stable debian.. rgds Frank -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates Well, I think the end of life stuff sucks. Yes, it's inevitable, but it still sucks. I for one haven't upgraded my 7.2 server (other than applying patches) since it was installed. Why? Answer: It works, It works, It works! It is inefficient to think about spending 3-5 days of a backup, HD format, re-install, reconfigure, reload, test, (fix what used to work, but now for some reason unexplained doesn't), QA and harden a new server when the one you have provides 100% of what you need (and believe me 7.2 is widely installed and has few shortcommings) So no, I don't repave each time a "got to have a number larger than RH release" comes out. If their is a needed capability that is offered in the new release, then I would. However, ssh, apache, php, mysql, pptpd, ipsec, samba (no XP clients), BIND 8, and the rest still work just fine under 7.2. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Chou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates > Now that Mandrake has announced their product end-of-life policy > (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3), I really need a > sustainable upgrade strategy. I've always struggled with rpm updates, > basically downloadling source rpms and building them myself. Mandrake > package dependencies also happen to be particularly 'unkempt,' often > includes things that really aren't necessary. My most "important" MDK box, > a gateway/firewall, is still basically MDK8.0 (console only). > > What do most of you do to keep your machines up to date with necessary > features and security updates? Do you pretty much re-pave each time for a > newer MDK distro, or do you build your own from sources? Any time-saving > hints, like rsync, etc, which would save download time? What are the best > practices? > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >
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