On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 14:47, Luca Olivetti wrote:
> James Sparenberg wrote:
> >>>supposedly one inserts the new CD and selects LiveUpdate. YMMV.
> >>
> >>And then spend the best part of a weekend fixing the breakage (if you 
> >>manage to).
> >>
> >>Bye
> > 
> > 
> > Actually I've had luck with it since about 8.1... in fact I upgraded a
> > 7.2 box to 9.0 straight out.   Problems are.
> 
> I've not been so lucky: it didn't prompt to change the cd, and the only 
> hint were that "there was an error installing package xxxx". Of course 
> switching the vt I saw that it wasn't finding the packages because they 
> were on the 2nd or 3rd cd.
> After a while (a *long* while) I had to stop the update (don't ask how, 
> I don't remember now), so I had roughly one third of the packages 
> updated. Luckily the system (a test machine anyway) was still bootable, 
> so I found that the urpmi sources were a mess. Hand edited them and 
> urpmi did the rest.
> Not a pleasant experience.
> 
> 
> > 1.  If you have modified many of your config files you'll find .rpmnew
> > extensions all over the place.  Best way to find them is to update the
> > locate dbase and do locate rpmnew.
> 
> That's the first thing I do after I upgrade any package, moreso if I 
> upgraded the whole distro. Pity that rpm doesn't store the modifications 
> you made to the previous default config file to make it easier to apply 
> those to the new default config file.
> 
> > 
> > 2.  Live-update is way to slow... boot and do upgrade ... still slow but
> > a factor of 5 faster than liveupdate. (it errors too much on the side of
> > caution.) 
> 
> It's what I did on my "real" machine. Still there were things to fix 
> with urpmi afterwards but I don't remember (it wasn't as painful as 
> LiveUpdate).
> I tried Debian and I didn't like it for variuos reasons, but I *do* like 
> the concept that you can seamlessly upgrade (and downgrade) the whole 
> distro without stopping and rebooting your machine (though in my limited 
> experience I failed miserably to upgrade from the stable debian to the 
> testing one).
> 
> 
> > 3.  If you did it from source (not source rpms) things in these areas
> > might get mucked.  RPM doesn't know from tarballs.
> 
> Nope, I install everything with rpm. If there's no rpm I make myself one 
> (and rebuild it after the upgrade).
> 
> > 
> > 4.  Fastest way is to still do an install keeping your partitions and
> > /home. (shear time factor.)
> 
> But there are many things that are kept outside /home (e.g. under /var).
> And all your customizations under /etc
> 
> Bye

cp xxxxfile to /home////  keep partition.  move back after install.



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