--- tarvid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 February 2003 12:56 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > Nobody would like to see winblows gone more than me, believe me.  But until
> > it does go, we've got to work with it and continue to use our collective
> > mental talents here to help replace it with (hopefully) Mandrake Linux.  As
> > we grease the rails for those peeps here trying to dual boot, we also pave
> > the way for winblows to be permanently replaced.  That's what I think of
> > when I consider the dual booters and the resultant collateral chatter.
> >
> i am not so sure dual-booting is the answer
> i ran dual boots from 1995 to summer 2000
> it wasn't until i dropped windows that i started making any progress on the 
> desktop a $200 box will do an adequate job of running either Linux or that 
> other OS
> 
> Linux gets cold when it is on the other partition.
> 
> jim tarvid

I don't know about that, Jim.  I think that it depends on the individual.  I spend
98% of my time in Linux; but there are some things that I still can't do
successfully under Linux; such as the creation of backups of copy protected CD's. 
The CD copy software under Linux is still not sufficiently sophisticated enough to
do bit for bit backup copies of game software using newer copy protection schemes. 
In order to do that you really have to be in touch with the capabilities of your
burner; and the Linux stuff isn't there yet, at least in LM82 it wasn't.  Perhaps
the newer cdrecord (v2.0) has improved.  In fact, my impression is that the
challenge with cdrecord up until now, at least, has been just to insure flawless
replications of standard iso's and non-copy protected cd's, and to keep up with
ports to other OS's such as solaris. Raw96r and Raw96p hardware burner modes are
supported as of 2.0, but does cdrecord use them to advantage with copy protection
schemes such as SafeDisc, SecuROM, LaserLock, or God forbid, TAGES?  Won't know
until I have another week to test. But I can tell you this; LM82 cdrecord could
not.

Another thing is gaming.  WineX has done invaluable and irreplaceable work when it
comes to bringing Linux into the mainstream gaming world, but there is still a ways
to go.  Baldur's Gate 2 is a good example. In order to network a game with my son,
(although I can play single player OK under LM82) I still can't network to his
machine for a multiplayer session.  Therefore I am forced to boot winblows. 
Morrowind will not run under WineX, AT ALL.  Yet.  Same for alot of other games;
some companies have the resources to make the attempt to compile their code for two
OS's.  Some don't.  Bioware seems to be willing to make the attempt, but their
Linux version of Neverwinter Nights seems to be almost a complete YEAR behind their
windows version.  By the time linuxers (or Mandrakians) get their copy of the linux
NWN client, most of the comraderie and excitement online has vanished, and they are
treading over old ground.  This is the situation that's going to be whenever I
finally see WineX run Morrowind, because I have absolutely refused to run Morrowind
under winblows. I never run games under win anymore, unless my son wants to net a
game, and then I'm forced to do so.  It's sad, but it's reality.

WineX goes a long way to getting us users completely under Linux, and in the
process saving the developers thousands of dollars of development time.  It helps
bridge the chasm between the win world and us, giving us even more opportunities,
choice, and strength.  But it is still an imperfect solution.  Till these things
and others are worked out, many of us will be forced to run with the devil.

LX



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