Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they are similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are that it is a via chipset.
This proposed upgrade is not to make it my main box. I have an old IBM/Cyrix 233 setup that I want to use as a second box, with dual boot win98 and Mdk 9. The main purpose is to learn about adding another linux computer to my lan, and also to explore video conferencing, over the lan, both in the mixed os environment and in an all-linux link. I accept that the speed of the C3 will not give the best video, but that's not important, as it is the learning process that's the important bit. I can't justify spending a huge amount on this project. The mobo takes DIMMs, and I have a 126MB DIMM in the old system, so memory should be no problem. As it is low-powered it may not be essential to buy a new case, but I think it would be wise, though I have an atx power supply that could be mounted in the current one. I can't see that anything else would be needed. The processor, though called a GigaPro, apparently equates to a celeron, which is ok for this box, I think. 3D work would tax it, but it would rarely be asked to do that. It seems that this cpu is used a lot in the small embedded boards. I have seen a report of a successful Debian install, so it looks likely that it would be OK for my purposes. There is not guarantee that I will be able to get one of these, as the guy was offering them at a local computer fair, and he may have sold out before I can find him again, but if I have heard nothing really offputting before then I shall buy one next time he is nearby - 2 weeks time. Anne On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 5:25 am, Robert Crawford wrote: > That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need > new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these > days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll > need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and > power supply you have, and post it so we can advise properly. Maybe post > the exact model of Cyrix/IBM you have now, and one of us can look it up and > offer better advice- just don't be hasty, and make a mistake. You can put > together a really good system, for very little money, if you know how. Any > better mobo/cpu is going to require a better power supply, if your present > system is what it sounds like. And, to get the best from any modern cpu, > you really need DDR memory- SDRAM is on the way out. > > In any case, Mandrake will install and run on almost any halfway system. I > would stay away from those via cpus, though. > > Robert Crawford > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing �500 to get > > a full decent system together. If I buy this for �50 I can get away by > > putting in the current drives and spending nothing else. But will it run > > Mandrake? > > > > Anne > > > > On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 10:02 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > > > In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little > > > more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, > > > in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is > > > 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC > > > chips board/1700+ combo runs $81 US. It also depends on if you are > > > planning on using the ram you have now. Do some research before buying > > > something. Look on Pricewatch, and compare stuff to what you have now. > > > For the price/performance, you can't beat the Athlon 1700+ Tbred "B," > > > and it can be matched with many low priced boards which all work fine. > > > > > > Robert Crawford > > > > > > On Sunday 30 March 2003 02:38 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty > > > > well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about > > > > this exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install > > > > on a related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the > > > > new quiet small boards that I have seen mentioned. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know anything, good, bad or indifferent, that would > > > > influence me? They are asking �50, by the way. > > > > > > > > Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302
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