On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 15:22, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: > [I sent this message some days ago but I did not see it in the ML. I send > it again.] > > I downloaded two days ago the ISOs and yesterday I installed them in the > following PC: > > Mobo PCChips 748lmrt, 128+64+32 ram, chipset sis620 (with onboard audio > cmi8738, lan davicom 901a, video sis 620 agp shared memory, modem pctel > AMR), celeron 400, video card 3dfx Banshee 16 mb PCI. hda IBM 60GXP 40 GB > (hda1 ReiserFS 5 GB, swap 400 MB and /home about 32 GB, ReiserFS). > > I noticed the install process was noticeably slower than mdk 9.0 one, a > trend started with mdk 8.1 (as far as I can remember). For example, in mdk > 9.0 I click a button and I get the next page, this time when I click the > "Next" button I have to wait from 3 to ***30*** seconds (gaussian > distribution of delays: mostly 13-18 second). I also noticed that packages > installation slowed only a bit, but it was much faster (same PC, obviously) > with mdk 8.X or 9.0.
it was very slow for me as well (net install over 100Base-TX LAN), eventually failing entirely. I completed install with urpmi. > > Suggestion: you cleaned up the list with the install steps (on the left), > but I think this time is too small :-( > One or two more steps are welcome in the first part, before packages > installation. > > Very good the idea of removing the "Expert" install, I always thought it > was confusing. > no real comments on the installer, I don't particularly like it but then I don't particularly care either. > I had a "problem" during X configuration: I saw "Voodoo Banshee generic" as > video card set automatically, so I simply changed the resolution: from 1024 > to 800. I then tested the configuration and ... EVERYTHING freezed. > Control-Alt-Fx did not work and I had to reinstall everything from the > beginning (I didn't know the x configuration was the LAST step! :-\. Hard > reboot and installation from the beginning. After about one hour and half, > at the same point of the previous freeze, I simply ignored the test button > and I accepted the configuration. > > When I rebooted (with much expectations, honestly) I found linux booting > without graphics (I was really suprised: I have seen the graphic boot for > at least 3 MDKs!) and **really slow**, especially in the "Finding modules > dependencies" (or similar, I'm writing from another pc because the pctel > modem is not recognized, as expected: not only it's a softmodem, it's also > AMR). looks like it's running depmod -a every boot now -- I've seen this too. > > Unfortunately, when the login manager should have appeared, everything > locked up again. I could hear the HD reading something, but I wasn't able > to kill xfree because I could not access the terminals. Hard reboot AGAIN. > I booted into runlevel 3 and executed XFdrake, this time trying to use a > different driver for the video card. I didn't find one, but I discovered I > could select xfree 4.3 wirthout 3d support or even xfree 3.3.6. I don't > know why but the problem was 3D support: the Banshee card has 3d support > with xfree, but who knows... Glad I saw this before trying to upgrade either of my servers -- they both have Voodoo3 AGP cards in them. Have you tried using 3.3.6? It was always pretty solid with the Voodoo. ... > Another strange thing: not only kde and gnome are slower than mdk 9.0, but > even the whole system: for example, window maker or a simple "./configure" > executed in a separate shell outside xfree (runlevel 5). Could it depends > on the kernel? I don't know, but I find this situation very strange and > unacceptable (I mean: I will come back to mdk 9.0 and I'll try to upgrade > manually as much as I can). > X stuff being slow could be an xserver problem, but this sounds like something different... I don't know what though. /etc/sysconfig/harddisks? Was the system responsive before? > A question: why did you choose a -pre kernel? was it really necessary? > I'll hazard a guess that it's ACPI -- those of us with new laptops and desktops don't get working systems without good ACPI support, and 2.4.21 is definitely a lot better. > Comments about my report and suggestions about how to speed up things are > welcome, I need them! > > Good luck (this time it's really necessary... ;-) > > Olaf Marzocchi > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Are you compliant yet? ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3514.txt
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