On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:56:53 -0700
James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 13:39, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Sun Sep 21, 2003 at 02:48:55PM -0400, HaywireMac wrote:
> > 
> > > Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > > 
> > > >  That none of these critics and dreamers has yet provided
> > > >  the world with a comparable,
> > > > more profitable linux distribution suggests that,
> > > > notwithstanding the possibilities of a million monkeys
> > > > typing on a million keyboards for a million years, these
> > > > lists are not the likely source of the proper tough
> > > > decisions Mandrake must make in order to continue in the
> > > > challenging, sometimes hostile, unpredictable corporate
> > > > environment.
> > > 
> > > well, us chattering monkeys should just keep our mouths shut,
> > > eh, ralphy boy?
> > > 
> > > LOL!
> > > 
> > > anyway, go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, ya
> > > snot-nosed bitch, if the sound of those typewriters in keeping
> > > you awake, go hide under a rock and us lowly end-users will
> > > try to keep it down a bit.
> > 
> > This isn't usenet.  The above comments are not appropriate for
> > this forum. You may disagree with what he had to say, and that's
> > fine, but to use that language is entirely unacceptable.
> > 
> > Do not do it again.
> 
> Saying shutup was I admit unbecoming.  Sorry.  within 2 weeks I
> will be losing house car, internet etc etc.  Yet I'm sitting here
> running multiple boxes with MDK and every single one of them is
> running Mandrake that is bought and paid for, and bought and paid
> for, for that box.  So to say the least I resent the implications
> that I or any one else is not doing enough for Mandrake.  This is
> one of the reasons I won't be running 9.2.  I can't afford it.  Is
> MDK shooting itself in the foot. Quite often ..... yes.  If they
> weren't they wouldn't have gotten into the mess they are in, in
> the first place.  Some of the responsible parties are gone.  Some
> are not.  Granted they aren't as brilliant as SCO or Verisign. 
> But they have made some monumental blunders over the last 6 years.
>  They have also made some tremendously good moves.  
> 
> However one thing I've noticed in every nuance of this thread. 
> People are complaining about not having enough access to BUY
> Mandrake.  Not that they have to, but that they can't, or that if
> they can it's an extreme hassle.  I'm reminded of a story my
> father told about one day about 11am he began to wonder why they
> hadn't seen a customer for about an hour.  Since it was an
> extremly hot day most of the sales people where not hanging out
> close to the front windows, rather further back into the store
> where the air conditioning was working better.  Turns out the
> reason was simple.  The "gate" (pull down style) had malfunctioned
> and came crashing down making it look like the store was closed.  
> 
> The moral of the story is.  In order to sell a product the doors
> need to be open to customers.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
My point exactly...entirely.  I understand the passionate defense. 
I don't understand the lack of product.

Mandrake is far better at giving things away than selling them. 
That's not a bad thing. 

Think I'll go lurk for a couple of more years.  I get smarter
listening than talking.

Lee


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