On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:45, Joeb wrote: > James Sparenberg wrote: > > >On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 21:01, Joeb wrote: > > > > > >>Greg Meyer wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>On Wednesday 15 October 2003 11:25 pm, Joeb wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Evidently, the 9.2 ISOs don't contain the kernel-sources. They exist > >>>>on the 9.2 tree on the ftp sites, but not on the CDs I DLd. Is it > >>>>just my CDs or were the ISOs bad (again). I can DL the sources, but > >>>>it would have been nice if they were included! Does anyone know of > >>>>any other files missing from the ISOs that are in the tree? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>I downloaded the PowerPack iso's and it is on CD3 of that set. There is > >>>actually a lot of stuff in main that is not on the 3 cd's. It just > >>>won't all fit on 3 cd's. But if you set up a 9.2 mirror as a urpmi > >>>source, any package you want installed will be automatically downloaded > >>>and installed. > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I understand that not everything can fit on the three CDs, but for the > >>basic 3 CD download set, the third CD isn't full, so it appears that > >>there would have been room. It's really pretty poor that the kernel > >>sources aren't included as many people need to compile things! I'm > >>wondering if and when the ISOs are put on FTP servers if this will be > >>fixed? If not, then a lot of people will be turned off by Mandrake. I > >>can only assume if people order CDs from Mandrake or CheapBytes that > >>they don't have a high speed connection. If that's the case, then > >>setting up a 9.2 mirror as a source won't work. Further more, as many > >>9.1 mirrors are being deleted (as I type), it would mean that if you run > >>9.2 longer than six months, you lose your ability to reinstall something > >>that wasn't on the CDs. > >> > >>Just my 2 cents. > >> > >>Joeb > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >My 3rd CD is 696 MB granted that 4 megs short of full but not enough > >for the kernel source. For that I recommend urpmi. > > > >James > > > > > > > >>______________________________________________________________________ > >>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > Wouldn't it make more sense to leave out some of the documentation > (kernel docs are there 3 times, apache twice and lots of other stuff). > Maybe we don't need all of those kernels on the CDs, there are quite a > few now. Without the kernel source, you can't compile NVidia drivers or > winmodem drivers or other sources that require the kernel headers! > > Not everybody has a high speed internet connection, so the simple > solution of urpmi doesn't work for something as important as a the > kernel headers/sources. We're not talking 100s of megabytes, just > 40MB. IIRC, the kernel sources were included with the betas and release > candidates, so if they could fit then, why not now. Also, isn't the > idea of a release candidate to be a test of the final release? If the > packages have been deleted, then how is it a test? > > Anyway, a lot of people will end up needing the kernel sources, so why > would they purposely be ommitted (and what was added that caused the > need to delete them)? > > Joeb
A lot gets duplicated. It does that so you don't have to switch the disks more than 1 time. As for what does doesn't get included. As far as I'm concerned about 1 disk worth is useless. But a lot wouldn't agree. (Emacs in all of it's forms could be dropped and I'd wouldn't miss it, but others would have a hissy fit.) The one major concession was that disk 1 is 650mb. Why. So that if your boxes cd drive can't read 700mb disks (and there are a lot of them.) You can at least get a box up. One note. Anyone downloading the iso's or using bittorrent either has broadband, or ... is a real glutton for pain. James
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