> Fact is, I personally feel that the unified architecture of centralized > products is a disadvantage when it comes to security. I like the chaotic > nature of current varied distributions of Linux.
my .02 is that I concur. Totalitarianism speaks through 1 voice, freedom is the voice of all being heard. The number of voices being hear is linux's strength and protection from the alternative. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Phinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Virus? > On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:31 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > > > > I don't know about your own experiences, but everytime I have been > > > involved in a product development effort designed by a committee, I have > > > not been overly impressed with the final results. Again, YMMV. > > > > My own personal experiences with anything involving committees forces me to > > fall back on an old quote: > > > > "A committee is the only lifeform in the known universe with many limbs, > > many eyes, many mouths...... > > > > and no brains." > > > > Sorry but I thought the discussion was becoming too intense. > > > > No offence intended. (-: > > No offense taken here, I was just plugging my .02 pence in to the discussion. > Everytime that I see someone suggesting that open source developers cooperate > with industry more, work with committees, etc., I almost always get visions > of a pack of wolves inviting the sheep in for dinner. Not that I distrust > business, mind you, but traditional corporations' entire business models are > diametrically opposed to what open source is trying to do, so I think that > you have to keep your eyes wide open when they start to make nice. Such > suggestions sound a lot like SCO's recent letter asking open source > developers to let them help monetize Linux. Or Forbes Magazine's dismissal > of open source because the FSF doesn't put a price tag on licensing but > instead demands that Cisco contribute back to the same movement that they > benefited from by releasing its source based on Linux. At a certain point, > you have to just recognize that some people are just never going to "get it." > Move on, do what we do best and let them join in once they realize that > people aren't buying buggy whips because they already bought an automobile > and they simply aren't interested in discussing ways to incorporate buggy > whips into cars. > > > > In my experience, nothing is secure. If you want absolute security, load > > > software on the box, rip out all the disk drives, network connections, > > > external interfaces and the keyboard and you are now secure. I used to > > > have an old XT computer chassis, no disk drives, no keyboard and no > > > working ports, that was a pretty secure box. > > > > I don't disagree with what you say, but I understand Haywire's point. > > Well, if you understand Haywire, then I wouldn't think we would be in > disagreement, my point was that Open Source appears to be secure, it appears > to be more secure than any other source developed with traditional > centralized, from the ground-up models, and until someone provides a > practical example of a superior product that was built using a centralized, > from the ground-up model, I am perfectly willing to take my chances with good > old Linux, open source, disjointed, hacked together as it may be. > > > For > > the average non-technically inclined computer user any GNU/Linux/Open > > Source system is easier to secure and maintain as secure. Simply because > > there are so many ways to work toward the goal and so many available tools > > and layers of defence to use. > > Fact is, I personally feel that the unified architecture of centralized > products is a disadvantage when it comes to security. I like the chaotic > nature of current varied distributions of Linux. > > -- > Bryan Phinney > Software Test Engineer > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >
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