Wow, impressive and fast feedback. As suggested, I'm trying to get to
know the GNOME Bugzilla ;-)

OK, I missed one important point - I'm using a 12" wide screen laptop
(1280x768). In particular, it means I have 16 cm vertical screen
space, which again makes me somewhat picky about not wasting that. :-)
As general GNOME-settings, I've removed the bottom panel and in
F-spot, the toolbar and time line is disabled.

2006/7/4, Stephane Delcroix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Morten,
>
> > > Import dialog:
> > >
> > > - When I create a new tag under "Attach tag:", it doesn't get attached.
> > [...]
> apparently fixed in CVS
> >
> > > - With a long list of tags, it gets quite scroll-intensive to get to
> > > the "New tag"-option - why not have an extra "Attach new tag: <text
> > > box>" below the "Attach tag:"? (With semantics like the semi-secret
> > > "t"-shortcut.)
> > There is a patch which lets the user resize the tag icons. This makes
> > for much less scrolling:
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321025

Still, when I eventually pass 768 tags, they will be one pixel each.
Return of the Scrolling :-)


> > > - I have a NTFS/Windows-partition mounted, which makes it show up in
> > > the import dialog - it kills f-spot if I select that by accident -
> > > could there be a safe-guard against trying to import mounts which does
> > > not seem to be flash-cards?
> > I'll look for a bug and file one if there is none. How is the
> > partition mounted, ro? Can I see your fstab entry?

There's no fstab-entry (GNOME does some black mounting-magic here!),
but my mtab is

/dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 0

> you can file this one to bugzilla

As a enhancement? (Again, I'm new to BZ)

> > > Browsing:
> > >
> > > - When adding comments, the text box stays in focus, seemingly no
> > > matter what key pressed. <shift>-<tab> does it, but why not simply
> > > <enter> and/or <esc>?
> the last-used-widget keeps the focus. what's the expected behavior ?

That is indeed the expected behaviour, from a programming/HIG point of
view. I can't really explain it, but once you have tried just entering
your comment and hit <enter> to finish, it just makes sense to use. (I
believe Picasa does it this way.) Personally it took me a few weeks to
discover that <shift>-<tab> did the trick - otherwise I used the
mouse.


> > > - When looking at individual pictures, <space> goes *backwards* in
> > > time and <backspace> goes forward. That seems very awkward for me, and
> > > backwards of every other photo program I remember using.
> > We're on our way towards the Big Crunch! That's entrophy for you. We
> > remember the future but not the past because the thermodynamic arrow
> > of time is facing 180 degrees from the psychological arrow of time. It
> > was bound to happen sooner or later.

Not being a physicist, the "arrow of time"-business does not make
sense to me. :-)


> ;););)
> well, look at the timeline in the top. the browsing way is consistant
> with the timeline. Typing PgDwn, DownArrow, RightArrow, Space go one
> step to the right. (of the timeline).
> You can display the timeline (and your collection) in chronological
> order, bye checking View>Reverse Order

As explained earlier, I've disabled the time line. It is pretty nice,
but it also takes up quite a lot of space.

I tried using the View->Reverse Order for a while, but as the main
view defaults to showing the pictures at the top of the list, I had to
scroll to the end of the list every time I opened F-spot (that was
also somewhat annoying).


> > > - When looking at pictures in full screen, the <left> and <right>-keys
> > > does not work until either <space> or <backspace> has been used.
> > Again, if this can be confirmed then I'll file a bug.
> In FullScreen or in View Mode ?
> In fullscreen, there's no problem (with the latest CVS), in Viewmode,
> there's indeed the small problem of giving the focus to the main pane...
>
> >
> > > - When in the overview-mode, why is the bottom-most pane consists of a
> > > "add photos"-button, a "F-spot"-label (identical to window title, by
> > > the way) and a zoom-control. I understand the zoom-control, and the
> > > add-button, but why not use the remaining space to show some useful
> > > information ("Currently browsing 973 photos of total 10534 in
> > > collection")?
> > That would be nice. I agree that there is a lot of wasted space in the
> > interface.
> File a bug, include a mock-up

I'll look into it. (Is there any good way to make a mock-up, besides
screen-dump -> gimp -> BZ?) And is i possible to attach files in BZ?


> > > - The tags-browser is great, but it could be better. - A lot of space
> > > is wasted on showing a big thumbnail/icon and a little bit of text.
> > > Why not do like Rhythmbox' "Queued songs", showing a the title (which
> > > would be the tag name) in large font, and showing album and band name
> > > (eg. number of photos with the tag) with a smaller font. Personally, I
> > > think it would be really nice if the timestamp of the earliest and
> > > latest photo with the tag could be shown in a sensible way.
> > See above regarding patch.

It's one thing to make the thumbs smaller, which I will be needing
before too long. But it could also be nice to have more information
about the tag available at hand.

> > > - All photo dates is seemingly shown in GMT, not local time.
> > Have you recently had windows on your computer? You may have set the
> > system clock to UTC by accident.
> There's a lot of bug filled regarding Time... if you don't find an
> answer, fill a bug (again) and it'll be a good starting point to help
> you

>From browsing BZ, it seems quite a few bugs has already been filed.


> > > Photo manipulation:
> > >
> > > - Where is the undo-button? Currently it seems the photo has to be
> > > removed from the collection, delete the extra files created and
> > > re-import the picture...
> > No, you see the dropdown box where it say "modified"? Change that to
> > "Original": there's your pic. It's actually much better than redo, as
> > you can keep both the original and the modified photo.

Probably so, but what if I don't want to waste space having an old
image lying around? My camera spits out 2.5 MB/shot, so it is in
reality quite an on-disk redo cache to keep around ;-)


> > > - I really fancy Picasas cropping and rotating - when selecting a area
> > > with the crop-tool, the to-be cropped part is grayed out, giving a
> > > stronger visual clue about what the result is going to look like. And
> > > Picasa has s crop-preview... The rotation-tool is able to do
> > > increments less than 90-degrees, which makes it usable. (Perhaps a
> > > "straighten"-option where you add two points along a vertical or
> > > horizontal line in the photo, and then rotate it accordingly?)
> > File a wish. Sounds good.
> >
> > > - When color-correcting, it takes an instant too long to make the
> > > changes show, which makes it somewhat irritating to use. And why can't
> > > the values be re-adjusted later?
> > >
> > >
> > > Export to folder:
> > >
> > > - When "rescale pictures" is selected, the exported pictures are
> > > rotated correctly. If it's not, the pictures are not rotated. Took
> > > some time to figure out ;-)
> there's a bug AND a patch for this
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165645
> > > - When "rescale pictures" are selected, small pictures get up-scaled,
> > > which (at least to me) seems counter-intuitive. I use it to enforce a
> > > maximum size of my pictures, not the other way around :-)
> fill a bug, asking changing the 'size' box by a 'max size'
> > > - When exporting to a folder, the progress-bar immediately hit 100%
> > > and stay there until the export is finished.
> > > - The exported pictures are way smaller than the originals, measured
> > > in file size (~2.1 MB -> ~1.3 MB). As I doubt Canons DSLRs are *that*
> > > bad at JPEG-compression, what data is discarded? (And where do I set
> > > the JPEG compression factor?)
> > This seems important. Can anybody confirm?
> confirmed, a bug is already filled and the solution is half done:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318376
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346452

While I haven't looked at the bugs, it seems you're on top of this. Great!

> > > - The export-sub menu has a "Export to Web Gallery"-option (which I
> > > *guess* refers to Gallary2), but there's also an almost identically
> > > labelled option in the "Export to Folder"-dialog. Potentially very
> > > confusing.
> > There is definete need for documentation on this.
> The whole export menus and dialog needs clean-up and love. It'll
> probably be much easy once the 'plugin' patch is accepted

>From browsing the f-spot-list archives, I understand some kind of
plugin-architecture is under way, but I failed to find out if it was
just export plugins or for the entire application...

-- 
Siebuhr
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