I agree with Jay on this point, I also think that when a pipe is made that fits our use, the 493 will be just a little quicker than it is now. Soon all front running national cars will need a 493 , just my opinion, not to be read as fact. Jeff @ Sidewinder racing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine
> I hate to argue this point about the 494 vs the 493 engines. I particularly > respect all that Tony has done for F500. I also know that F500 is not a > huge part of his business as he sells a lot of kart engines which has been > his major business for many years. > > I think it is important to look at the qualifying times from the Runoffs > last year & you will see that the 493 with the added 50 lbs is absolutely > equal to the 494. Admittedly Brian Novak turned the fastest race lap by > less than .1 seconds with a 494, but that "super trick" car is now illegal. > There were several 493s within .1 or .2 seconds in both qualifying & the > race. This indicates to me that the 493 with 50 lbs & the 494 are extremely > close from a competitive perspective. > > I agree that we need the availability of new engines & we do have this > availability right now. Nothing is stopping anyone from purchasing a new > 493. The only problem is that when you spend over $3000 you want to get > something extra for it not just the same lap times. When we NEED a new > engine we will buy a new 493. However why should we have to spend over > $3000 dollars to upgrade to a 493 when we are currently competitive with our > 4 year old 494. > > Think of it this way: If they remove the 50 lbs from the 493 EVERY front > runner with a 494 will have to buy a 493 to keep up. I can't afford it. > Can you? > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine > > > Actually, Tony only needs to see some interest in the 493 from this group. > If he had about 5 requests for a 493, even if those requests were not for > immediate delivery, he'd place the minimum order of 10 engines with Rotax > and put the unneeded engines on the shelf for future delivery. He said that > last year and I don't think he has changed his business plan. > > Tony wants to work with us on the 493 and do everything necessary to supply > the need, but because of SCCA racing's additional 50# tagged to the engine, > there just doesn't seem to be the interest. And, quite frankly, I can't > blame the members not wanting to add 50# without the extra performance to > offset that increased weight. A new 493 is no better then a good 494. All > the testing, including the testing QRE has done, has proven that fact to us > and that is why we are still running the 494 for as long as we can. Kinda > short sighted I'll admit, but like everybody else, we don't race to be an > "also ran" and until SCCA removes that 50#, we will continue to run 494s > until there are no blocks left to put in a car. > > >From a manufacturer's viewpoint, when we build a new car we want to put a > new engine in it. The customer should and does expect that. What's the > availability of new engines? Can Q look a customer square in the eye and > tell him he can put a 493 in the chassis but not to worry, that extra weight > doesn't mean a thing? Not on your life! Sure we could wait out SCCA for 10 > years or so until there just isn't any good 494 or 440 parts around (440 > parts are already like hen's teeth), then everybody would have to go to the > 493 and add the weight. Does anyone reading this want to wait that long for > things to even out? By that time, the 493 will probably be history too > :-):-(. > > >From what I'm reading in the last few days, some people are already havin g > trouble finding those good, solid, and legal 494 blocks. Maybe people will > start writing to the CRB in numbers so that SCCA gets the clear message. > Then again, maybe not :-(. > > As many have said on this forum, it is just crazy to weigh more then your > competitors without any additional engine performance and the CRB is hurting > the future growth of this class with this foolishness. With all the stuff > that our members have asked the CRB to do to the class recently, the removal > of the 50# penalty for the 493 should have been the priority if we were > really interested in maintaining and increasing our class. > > Making 440s more competitive is fine, but the Kawis and the 494s are the > past, not the future. And, if we really are interested in growth, you're not > going to find it in a junkyard! > > Art > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McAbee, > Chuck > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine > > Tony Murphy (661) 944-1624 is the Rotax aftermarket distributor for the US > and has all the parts necessary to maintain the Rotax 493 and 494 engines. > > While SCCA may not like the sound of our engines....they do like the green > of our money. > > The 494 engine has not been produced for production snowmobiles since about > 1998. The 493 is currently being produced, however, Tony Murphy has to > purchase a minimum of 10 engines from Rotax at a time; therefore Tony needs > to have nearly 10 solid orders in order to minimize his financial risk in > buying 10 engines at time. > > Sourcing parts for race cars....any race car, is not a matter of going down > to NAPA and taking the parts down off the rack. > > > Chuck McAbee > SEDIV #16 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:27 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine > > > dan I also have been looking for an engine and having a hard time finding an > engine 494.... who is selling these..... who is selling cylinders... why > does f500 always get the dreags of the barrel and everything is hard to find > and out dated.... wheels engines... parts...does the scca not like us??????? > I thought it was that I was not in snowmobile country... > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. 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