I am familiar with over steer and under steer, what the heck is
overshoot?
Bill Schmidt 88 Red devil Kawi

>>> "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/02/06 9:45 AM >>>
I ran the tall rears in conjunction with 18 fronts for about 5 years. I 
found that the 19's were narrower but since they were taller they had
the 
same grip. Hoosier told me they were designed that way.  However, if I
ran 
them enough, especially on concrete for about 6 events in really hot
weather 
(112+F), the tall rears stretched and got wider and taller, especially 
wider.

Thru a slalom, the mixed sizes never felt as good, the shorter rears
made 
the car easier to control and a little faster thru the shortest spaced 
nastiest slaloms. A little more overshoot in the back had to be
compensated 
for with hand input with the tall rears.  I never ran the tall tires on
all 
4 wheels, but my experience with other cars was that the overshoot in
the 
front would make the car have a little less net rear overshoot in
turning. 
The downside is that then the car would be a litttle squishy and less 
responsive to steering input overall then.

I always thought that running a little negative camber in the rear would

have helped the tall tire grip also.

Other people have also.

The most recent person to design and build a rear end on a F500 that
could 
put sizeable amounts of neg camber in with uprights that could assume an

angle to the main axle cut the whole rear  off his car and started over 
again. (rulebook heartburn).  Actually, it was done about 1990 also and
then 
more recently in about 2004. Neither car continued production with that 
"feature", as far as I know.



Chuck





>From: Jim Libecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [F500] Getting started in club racing
>Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 05:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Don't count out running both autox and club races!!!
>We have done back to back
>weekends.
>
>National competetive road racing and last years solo champion.
>What changes?
>I used to change from 18 to 19.5 inch tires, but now would just
>change the fronts and leave the tall rears on all of the time to
simplify.
>Just Short/Wide fronts. (10 min)
>Switch brake pads (five minutes).
>I used to
>switch gears but might just leave them the same.  Won and invitational 
>autox
>shootout for money with road race gears in.  (LOVE CVT's!!!).
>Reset toe and
>camber.
>
>That is it.
>Oh yeah, that extra 40lbs of ballast to be bolted into
>the car due to the 493 penalty in club racing....grrrrr.
>
>
>
>
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>Message-----
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