Mark, not sure if it did or didn't, but I was told by the person @ NASCAR that 
is head of safety that it failed the sled test.  Mark, your an engineer, unless 
you have a fixed point that moves with the upper torso, I don't think it will 
work.  The problem is all the straps, and belts or whatever, slide....
   
  CR

"Lindsey, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  But didn't the R3 get FIA certified?


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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Reinhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] to hans or not to hans

I was told that a sled test of R3 was worse than using nothing! The
actual weight of the unit added to the inertia and did nothing in the
way of stopping the head movement. The problem is the way that the
device attaches. The Hans is the only one the has a full shoulder front
and back rigid support. Anything with a strap or bar or whatever,
slides up and does nothing.
CR
Jim Libecco wrote: I looked at it, but didn't have
enough room in my car for it. It has it
pluses (no way for the seat belts to come off). Similar head protection
idea
as the HANS. Downside in relying upon the chest to maintain position.
Questionable fit in a KBS anyway with the multiple angles to the back,
but
someone with a thicker insert/pad may be fine.

jim

----- Original Message
----
From: "Lindsey, Mark" 
To: [email protected]
Sent:
Monday, November 27, 2006 2:32:26 PM
Subject: RE: [F500] to hans or not to
hans

Verify it's the 30 degree one. The 10 and 20's are cheaper

Anyone
tried the R3 device? How does it compare with the hans? Is the
R3 approved
for Grand Am/NASCAR


Mark S. Lindsey, AIA
Principal

Baskervill
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804 343 1010 P.O. Box 400
Ship to or visit 
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create


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] to hans or not to hans

I had found hans
devices for 850.00 Will try to find it again 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:23
AM
Subject: Re: [F500] to hans or not to hans


old bill would say "its not
even a question" 

or anyways a pretty dumb one. $1000 is pretty cheap for a
little 
peace of mind. 

On 11/26/06, Frank Varano 
wrote: 
> I'm thinking of doing the apexspeed group buy, but a HANS is still a
bunch of money. How many of you are using a HANS device now? Do you
think it
will become manditory? At the speeds F500s travel are neck
injuries/ neck pain
common in a crash. 
> 
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