Well said I have not posted but been recently trashing most emails from here at 
its over baring
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sammye Squyres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:36:48 
To:[email protected]
Subject: [F500] Re: F500 Digest, Vol 47, Issue 27

Amen, Joe.   I've corresponded with several F500 people privately and 
stated that I seldom read the forum anymore and sometimes even block it 
from my email.  They want to know why.   Gentlemen, need I say more?

Sammye

>
> Subject:
> Re: [F500] new body for KBS and Q-cars
> From:
> "Joe Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:
> Sun, 11 Feb 2007 20:38:30 -0600
> To:
> <[email protected]>
>
> To:
> <[email protected]>
>
>
> Seriously . . . for the good of this list, your fellow racers, and our 
> class . . . When you find yourself replying for the 4 time to the same 
> thread, PLEASE TAKE IT OFF-LINE.  We all benefit from healthy 
> discussions, but our in-boxes are FULL with personal debates that went 
> well beyond what is beneficial to the group.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [F500] new body for KBS and Q-cars
>
>
>> This is not a discussion it is an argument.
>>
>> Thanks ... Jay Novak
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
>> Chris
>> Reinhardt
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [F500] new body for KBS and Q-cars
>>
>>
>> OK, now I'll bite, I think you changed your view and now we arguing the
>> same point?
>>  You originally said the CFD was in it's infincy until someone 
>> pointed out
>> they had used it 16 years ago...
>>   I think we can all agree that niether software, wind tunnel or track
>> testing is 100% flawless.
>>   I first argued that you "CAN" build a good if not great aero design
>> "WITHOUT" the use of a wind tunnel.  Aerodynamics is not a new science,
>> there's plenty of fomulas to help design and as we discussed the 
>> "new" rage
>> of software.  This has all been built out of what?  The fact that 
>> there's a
>> handfull of windtunnels in the world.  Of course a designer could 
>> build a
>> good body without a wind tunnel and they do every day.  Just because 
>> NASCAR
>> needs to have their cars go through it, doesn't mean every other car 
>> does.
>> They're trying to push the envelope of the rules...for a brick....
>>
>>
>>  CR
>>
>> Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Chris,
>> Even when I explain it all like an old fashioned narrated "Dukes of 
>> Hazard"
>> TV episode,
>> You still apparently misunderstand what I am telling you.
>>
>> Or, more likely, you are just yanking my chain, now. :->
>>
>> I'll bite, however-one mo' time.
>>
>> Below is a summary of my last email
>> -and no Daisy Duke in cut-off jeans to distract you either...
>>
>> 1) If a body was NOT developed in a wind tunnel for racing, it doesn't
>> necessarily make it worthless. Even w/out CDF and no wind tunnel, racers
>> have other ways to get the job done.
>>
>> 2) CFD is never a 100% substitute for other design tools. Back and forth
>> validation between model elements and real world testing of some sort is
>> still always required for optimal results.
>>
>> 3) The level of sophistication (cost) of the particular CFD software 
>> tool
>> one uses makes a difference in how closely its results resemble reality.
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Subject:
> [F500] RE: F500 Digest, Vol 47, Issue 26
> From:
> "Lindsey, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:
> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:08:26 -0500
> To:
> <[email protected]>
>
> To:
> <[email protected]>
>
>
> I saw the vacuum car on SPEED about a year ago.  Very cool and dusty.
>
> If you think airline designers have it right, look at all the "winglets"
> and vortex generators they add to the tips, engines and top of the wing
> to move the air and break up the boundary layers.
>
> I smile every time I see an F-1 car with all the wing tips and special
> shapes to move the air around the car.  
>
>
>
>  
> Mark S. Lindsey, AIA
> Principal
>  
> Baskervill 
> architecture + engineering + interior design
>  
> 804 343 1010       P.O. Box 400        Ship to or visit     
> fax 343 0909         Richmond, VA      101 S 15th St         
> baskervill.com      23218 . 0400        Ste 200 . 23219   
>  
> ask + listen + create
>  
>  
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