Wondering if the desirability of Joy and Factor lies in their simplicity.

''In short, the opportunity to simplify will remain with us for many years,
and I propose, in order to maintain our sanity and enthusiasm, that we
welcome the long duration of that opportunity rather than to suffer from
impatience each time the practitioners deride or discard our next
successful pilot project as a toy problem: they will do so, even if you
have achieved what, shortly before, they had confidently predicted to be
impossible.''
  -- http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1051.html

Cheers,
Leonard
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