--- In [email protected], "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic 
and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped  his philosophy and 
love for all of humankind merely on the tenets of his fathers was 
like saying Einstein merely followed up on Newton. >>>

Thats not what I said. I said Buddha was born and bred in a Vedic 
culture and rejected some Vedic practices, and carried some others 
on and changed some around.

Besides , Jesus was echoing things laready in his tradition. Its 
just that he was talking to a bunch of real live people with all the 
usual faults etc. (Kinda like a liberal living ina red state)


<<<A human is what they profess that they are. Which is why I 
believe in this Elijah guy thats kind of crazy and walking around 
the world now, mostly in Israel. He claims it. Yes, he pegged it. 
Just like how the House of Windsor's Crest has the seven dragons and 
so on.  They pegged another fundie prophecy, the Vatacan pegged 
another fundie prophecie, all these from Revs. When you peg yourself 
in the spot reserved for someone you take it and noone can really 
dislodge you, unless you are totally against tradition, and then, 
they burn you or crucify you, or just simply torture you until your 
skin flips. Been there, done that. As a witch I felt closer to Jesus 
than most of his professed priests, and when I burned I thought of 
him on the cross with pity, for they knew not what they did those 
ignorant fucks. Who kill what they don't understand. >>>>



What are you on man?


>>> 
> This is where tantra teaches one to hold to the dark and the 
light, hold to enlightenment, and yet remain to serve and grow, 
because tantra teaches us that the dark is merely a component of our 
basic nature, like the NI in the agnim, very necessary for self 
reflection, nay the anima and unconscious is the source of potential 
for growth. I've been into this lateley, this darkness theme, 
because I learned that we October Libras are quite familiar with the 
occult and we like twisted 13s and walking under ladders and having 
Crowley's birthday and pigeons flying left and black cats and all 
that jazz. But on the bright side we can reconcile that with the 
sattva of our awareness during samadhi. In fact to see the rainbows 
over Bourbon Street  and the light of spirits being poured and 
raised, yeah, in this deep tamas of the American South deep in the 
voodoo one sees the heart of God pulsating. I swear before you all 
that if the Apocalypse comes then they'll throw down in New Orleans 
like nowhere else on Earth. Oh yeah, the marching bands will play 
and it would get rowdy in a good way. I'm trying best as I can to 
relay that there's no tradition for deep thought or cognizance 
because it is one with the base.
> >>>

True.


> With my collection of rudraksha alone I know Siva is alive and 
well here.  I once gave five strands of rr beads to a cokehead 
friend of mine. His addictive personality made him crave to wear the 
beads too. I think he transferred some craving to the beads and 
hence to Shiva. This is tantra in the best meaning because tantra 
utilizes desire to make us transcend duality. He would send his 
girlfriend to get them if he forgot them.  
>>>


Great. It could be that the things around us in space all have a 
correlation in the brain. In fact the brain creates them. And the 
right things at the right time can cause subtle neuronal and 
cellular evololution.





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