--- In [email protected], "at_man_and_brahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Response below. > > > > Perhaps it's just my lack of "clarity", but you seem to be all over the map > > on this issue. > > > > On the one hand, you berate the gurus who have followings here > > I berate the gurus who have actively encouraged
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% I guess I just don't understand what that means, nor can I imagine how you would be in a position to know which ones had versus which ones had not. If your reasoning is "They have followers there, so they must have encouraged them", I am still at a loss about this "encouraged" concept. People started dropping away from the TMO in Fairfield long before the "turf" issue became contentious. They went out on their own and looked around. They told their friends what they found. Their friends went out and took a look for themselves. Before long there were groups that had gone out independantly, on their own, without solicitation, and found something they liked. It was the "demand" from those groups that led to the phenomenon we have been discussing. The "turf war" aspect was invented by TM people who believed that the whole of Jefferson County is Maharishi's ashram. No one else is buying that. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > such followings. > > ; on the other hand, you > > think the competition is healthy�but only if it develops "from the demand > > side", which > in > > my experience is EXACTLY how it developed. > > If so, great, and I stand corrected. > Various posts to FFL have led me > to believe that Amma, for instance, > makes periodic visits to Mount > Pleasant and that she plans to open > a Fairfield Ashram and take retreats > there. I must have been mistaken. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% She visits Mt Pleasant each summer and has an ashram here. What of it? She has many devotees here. Is there any reason why she shouldn't give them her darshan? No one from the TMO has ever been forced to attend, as far as I know. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > In fact, it is well known among Amma and Punditji devotees that they waited > > many years > > before raising their profiles here. In other words, the demand side was > > thoroughly in > place > > before the controversy over the public presence of other movements showed > > up. > > I have zero problem with people in > Fairfield doing whatever they damn-well > please, in whatever timeframe. > > > > > As for you contention that you "plainly meant that competitive forces have > > the potential > to > > solve a great many problems that this group expends tremendous energy complaining > > about": I don't see that plainly in your text, nor is it logical, based on > > what we see here > day > > after day, that such a development is even remotely likely. > > Surely you can agree with me that, if > nothing else, even if the local Movement > simply will not budge an inch in the face > of competitive forces, such a position will > lead to eventual implosion, and that that > would be a good thing. Market forces > will force Maharishi's ashram to adapt or > perish (or both), though it is hard to say > how long either will take to happen. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% FFLife may someday fold, but not because there is no longer anything to talk about in the cult department. It will be from boredom, and probably not soon, judging from the exchanges we've seen in the past week. L B S > > You are right, btw, in your mention > elsewhere that death threats against > Amma are a crime, both legally and > morally. There is absolutely no > justification for such actions, and > MUM should publically condemn them. > > > > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
