--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In TM you calm the mind > down and slide into pure consciousness when there is > essentially no mental functioning (I just > realized-chitta vritti narodha-duh!)
And why do you think yogas chitta vritti nurodhah means "no mental functioning"? Simply because some translator used a generizized term of "mind" for "chitta" instead of being more specific and breaking out distinctions of manas, chitta and buddhi -- common in most sanskrit literature? Reading english translations, one might think, as we all did, having a "duh" or "eureka" thought when first reading yoga sutras: "Thought is a wave; when wave settles down that's trancendence; thats yoga." But isn't that a bit narrow to think yoga is only TC? Yoga includes, among other things -- fully active mind with consciousness knowing itself. "No mental functioning" doesn't describe this state. Nor does it describe larger states of wholeness some of which one might view as living within the fluctuations of cosmic mind, of divine mind. Look to the words! Does Patanjali say yogas manas vritti nurodhah -- manas being the word usually refering to cognitive thinking mind. No. Patanjali says "yogas chitta vritti nurodhah" referring to chitta - the storehouse of impressions -- the binding seeds of desire that create the illusion of individuality and perpetuate rebirth. Yoga -- from TC to CC to UC to BC -- unfolds as successive layers of chitta are "purified" and made inert -- or at least "sterile" with no more generative power. It has little to do with manas. The connection, is the decoupling of the power of potent chitta to disrupt manas, e.g. "monkey mind". When chitta is nurudhah'ed then manas fluctuates with power and purpose, not soiled by (the illusion of individual) popcorn like desires shooting off in all directions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
