--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "at_man_and_brahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will respond simply by saying that > I accept your thoughts and the > spirit in which they are given.
@@@@@@ That is all I ask. L B S @@@@@@ > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "at_man_and_brahman" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > snip > > > > > > > > Was a bias of L.B.'s revealed in his > > > interpretation of what I said to mean > > > that I sided with hardcore protectionists > > > in Fairfield? > > > > > > Then, we all have biases, or at least > > > the "remains" thereof. > > > > &&&&&&&& > > > > The semantic loading in your choice of words in those posts indicated an > > emotional > > "charge" on your part. In my experience, this only comes from > > identification with a > > localized point of view. > > > > In a recent post, you acknowledged that you used to feel that way (hardcore > protectionist) > > when involved locally and that some trace of that may have turned up in > > your opinions > on > > the subject (the "remains" thereof). If you intend to maintain that you > > have been neutral > in > > your positions on this topic, you have a difficult case to make, based on > > what you have > > actually left in the archives. > > > > I have attachments and aversions of my own, based on my 35 years > > inside/outside the > > movement, so I have some appreciation that these can persist long beyond > > our > conscious > > perception of them. > > > > In another recent post, you acknowledged that you have been away from FF > > for twenty > > years. I am only saying, as one who has been here during those twenty > > years, that the > only > > explanation I can find for your contentiousness on the issue of "guru turf > > wars" is that > you > > don't realize the extent to which you are still speaking for the TMO. > > > > The rest of society just doesn't see the issue the way you have presented > > it. This is not > > how gurus relate to each other, for the most part, in India, for example. > > It is not what > they > > prescribe for their disciples/devotees. It is only found in the presence of > > "the one true > > path" or "the greatest guru of all the ages". > > > > My thinking about this forum is that it is a colloquium, an opportunity for > > peers to > > converse as equals whether they agree on all points or not. When someone > > takes the > > position that some of the members are "squatters", or that their gurus are > > not as > > legitimate as someone else's, the quality of discourse here inevitably > > suffers. > > > > If unavoidable differences of opinion exist regarding gurus and/or > > teachings, then this > is a > > matter for legitimate discussion. Let the debate be on the merits of the > > evidence or the > > reasoning, not on the level of unsupported assertions. > > > > Many people have questioned the "agenda" of FairfieldLife; specifically, > > some have > claimed > > that it is intentionally anti-TM. I have not seen this, regardless of the > > fact that many who > > post here have "issues" with the movement and a few plainly despise it. It > > seems to me, > > rather, that what some people find objectionable is that very lack of > > affiliation, based on > > their feeling that the TMO is the only legitimate organization for all of > > us, regardless of > > how we may feel about that. > > > > The fact that your posts questioned the legitimacy of the presence of > > "others" in > Fairfield > > suggested to me that you were "in that camp". Since it is pretty rare to > > find someone > NOT > > in that camp who would see any problem with spiritual diversity, I am still > > at a loss to > see > > it otherwise. Your logic in responding—"I have no problem with supply and > > demand as > > long as a certain segment of the demand side is ignored or > > prohibited"—really doesn't > > help your assertion that you are free of your old TM biases, either. > > > > That's the basis of my taking you to task for your comments about Amma and > > others. I > > look forward to your response, should you feel inclined. > > > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
