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No, no, and no.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:19
AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sunthar
Visuvalingam
Would it be accurate to say that the pre-Aryan
culture
was a Shiva-Shakti spirituality? Is Kashmirian
Shaivism the only
extant link to this ancient culture
today?
-Peter
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2005, at 10:27 PM,
at_man_and_brahman
> wrote:
>
> > (Your tautology aside)
not especially, and
> > Sunthar seems utterly uninterested in
>
> engaging in a discussion that will
> > reveal its mysteries to
me or connect it
> > to my present and past paradigms.
>
> It's simple really.
>
> There are two basic streams of
ancient Indian
> society: Vedic and
> pre-Vedic. Transplant and
indigenous. Brahmin and
> Dravidian. In the
> current sense,
those who are appropriated by
> Vaishnavism and the
> primordial
yogic Shaivites.
>
> One forms a priesthood, another an outcaste
Gnosis.
>
> In order to preserve one culture (the
indigenous
> Dravidian Shaivite
> culture--which was VAST), they
created barriers
> which would prevent the
> Brahmins from raping
their culture, their Gnosis.
>
> The Aryans were vegetarians and
worshipped the cow.
> The Shaivites ate
> meat, but worshipped
the bull. And on and on. There
> were certain taboos
> that
separated these two parallel societies. One was
> an
>
invader/transplant, the other was indigenous.
>
> The indigenous
people created a sacred life that
> opposed the
> transplanted
aryan culture. Their sacred life was
> masked by an approach
>
that would cause a Brahmin to transgress that which
> hey held sacred: a
> transgressive sacrality: a sacredness only
> approached by
transgressing
> everything you held as sacred.
>
> A
classic example exists in the
> hatha-yoga-pradapika, the central text
> of hatha-yoga. In it is the sutra:
>
> "Eat
meat and drink wine".
>
> To the devout Brahmin this was utter
heresy! But, if
> you could
> transgress the sacred, if you could
get beyond the
> taboos, you might
> find out the true meaning of
this heretical phrase.
> "Eat meat" was
> really a play on words.
"Mamsa", the word for meat,
> was also a
> code-word for the
tongue. "Wine" was also a
> code-word for "amrita", the
> subtle
forms of prana which were associated with the
> sahasara-chakra.
> Thus what the phrase really meant was to raise the
> tongue to
the roof
> of the mouth and drink the "wine", the amrita (or
>
soma), which came
> from the higher worlds. It is an instruction
in
> khechari-mudra.
>
> That is transgressive
sacrality.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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