--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > Damn, shoot her in the head if you have to, but to
> > > > torture her to death by starvation is really sick.
> > > 
> > > I don't see it as any more sick than having kept her "alive" 
on a
> > > feeding tube for 15+ years.
> 
> I've watched 2 people with advanced terminal illness die by 
choosing
> to disconnect from their tubes and in neither case was there any 
sign
> of pain, in fact the psychology seemed to improve as they gradually
> passed over, in fact 1 person who had been taking morphine stopped
> near the end.  I don't know the medical science of this but I don't
> think this way of ending it involves extra suffering.
> 
> > >It may have been discussed before, but, if the girl's parents 
want 
> > to take charge of her situation, if they want to administer some 
> > kind of therapy, why should they not be allowed to do this.  Why 
> > can't the husband simply divorce her and move on.  Who cares if 
she 
> > will ever progress or not.  They want to keep her alive.  What 
skin 
> > does the husband need to have in the game at this point.  I 
suspect 
> > it's something other than trying to fulfill her unwritten but 
> > suppossedly expressed wish to not be kept alive in this fashion.
> 
> If my wife told me and her best friends that she did not want to be
> kept alive in this way, then I would try to fulfill her wishes out 
of
> respect and love - it's the parents who seem to have some other 
agenda
> of their own.

A good friend's father had a stroke and was clearly not going to 
improve. He couldn't talk or do anything on his own. The prognosis 
was not good and the man was old. The doctors asked the 
family, "would you like us to give morphine?" The implication was 
that the increase in morphine would not only ease his pain but speed 
up the death process. The family agreed to this, stayed close and 
said their good byes. I think there is alot of unrecorded 
euthanasia. The problems seem to arise when there is objection or 
disagrement about allowing someone to die. Clearly we wouldn't allow 
a distraught person to end their life. Who can determine what is 
right or wrong for another person? That is really the situation. 
Everyone has an opinion on someobdy else's life choices.Everyone is 
playing God, especially the government. From this side of the 
spectrum, death seems like such a big deal. Maybe from a broader 
perspective, it is no big deal.
My own grandfather had prostrate cancer. The cancer was advanced. 
The family could handle that he was going to die. We thought, "just 
let him have his dignity" BUT NOOO, the doctors then wanted to cut 
him up as much as possible, prolong a life that was now into 
suffering. He didn't need to live another few weeks like that all 
disorientated and miserable, walking around some hospital. There was 
that book "something ...down under" about the aboriginies in 
Australia, and these people chose their own death time, had a party, 
said good bye, sat in lotus and left the body. 





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