--- Paul Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > For what it is worth (which ain't much!) MMY is
> > completely and totally realized. A blazing sun of
> > Brahman the burns bright in the galaxay of
> samsara!
> > -Peter
> 
> I don't believe that! 
> That a man successfully spreads a technique aimed at
> dipping into the 
> still reaches of the mind, doesn't mean he is
> 'realized' - 
> 
> I would look to find signs of spiritual qualities or
> at the least to 
> see an absence of greed and an absence of lust of
> power.

And therein lies the paradox of MMY. On one hand I
completely agree with you regarding MMY's greed and
lust knocking him off the realized list. But then
there's the profound experiences catalyzed by his
presence. These can't be ignored. So MMY doesn't fit
my conceptual definition of enlightenment. But he
certainly fits the experiential definition. Again it
seems that the infinite value can open-up within any
point value. MMY's point value is a little too sharp
for many of us !
-Peter 



 
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