--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Deepak Chopra was interviewed on CNN re: Terry Shaivo by Anderson 
> > Cooper--will most likely replay tonight.
> 
> I don't have access to CNN. Can you give a brief summary of what he
> said?
> 
> Alex


KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR:  Great to see you, Deepak. 


DR. DEEPAK CHOPRA, AUTHOR, "THE DEEPER WOUND": Great to see you, 
Kyra. 


PHILLIPS: I guess just for our viewers and to establish where you 
stand 
on this issue, first with regard to Terri Schiavo, do you believe 
that 
she should remain on a feeding tube, or do you think what is 
happening 
now is the right decision? 


CHOPRA: I think what's happening now is the right decision, but let 
me 
also say that, you know, the very fact that there's so much 
controversy 
means that nobody is 100 percent sure. You know? Because, otherwise, 
there wouldn't be the controversy. 


Freud once said the definition of neurosis is the inability to 
tolerate 
ambiguity, ambivalence and uncertainty. So we should start with 
saying 
we really in the ultimate don't know. 


But having that said, life is defined by consciousness, by 
perception, 
by cognition, by emotions, by relationships, by behavior and by 
biology. In her case, there's only one component there that would 
signify that there is some life there, and that is biology. And 
moreover, it's autonomic nervous system that we're looking at. 


You know, you can take a human heart out. You give it the right 
nutrition and it can beat for a long time. That doesn't mean it's 
living. That's not the definition of life. 


I think what we're doing right now, by withdrawing this feeding tube, 
is actually alleviating the suffering of many, many people and, 
moreover, I think what the really bad about this whole thing is, that 
her life and her body have become a weapon of political exploitation. 
And that -- that's a very sad commentary on our times. 


PHILLIPS: That's a good point, and I want to talk more about that. 
But 
when we talk about Terri and is she suffering, because this is a word 
that has been used quite a bit lately. Is she suffering? And is she 
suffering mentally, physically or is she suffering more spiritually? 


CHOPRA: 


Well, she's not suffering because, you know, suffering is in 
consciousness, and in the absence of consciousness, there is no 
suffering 


. If anybody is suffering, it's her parents, who can't decide, 
you know, who are not so -- who are having anguish. Her husband and 
all 
of the people who are attached to very rigid points of view and 
belief 
systems....There are a lot of belief systems here in contradiction. 

PHILLIPS: Well, OK, then that leads me to the next point. If Terri is 
not suffering, then is everyone forgetting about Terri and what is 
best 
for Terri next? And is that an afterlife? Is that a conversation with 
God and figuring out what is next for her soul, for her being? I 
mean, 
what's your outlook with, if she were to die within an hour or two or 
the next day? 


CHOPRA: Where I come from, Kyra, and the philosophy that I embrace is 
that her soul is not in her body. Her soul broadcasts through her 
body, 
just like you are not in my television box, but you are appearing and 
expressing yourself through my television box. 


So her soul is already liberated. It's not localizing through her 
body, 
so there is nothing there that is suffering. There's an autonomic 
nervous system that is playing itself out. And that's only one 
component of how we define life. She is already liberated, and she is 
incubating non-locally so she can express herself again if you would 
just let her go. 


<snip commercial break and Vatican spokesman> 


PHILLIPS: Do you find [the Vatican speaking out on the Schiavo case] 
usual, Deepak? Do you think it's interesting that the Vatican is... 


CHOPRA: I think it's a great paradox, actually. You know, the 
suffering 
of Christ and the suffering of the pope are suffering examples of 
great 
dignity, which has meaning for the rest of the world. 


The suffering, the so-called suffering of Terri Schiavo has no 
dignity 
there. What we're doing is keeping certain autonomic functions going 
in 
the absence of any life. 


So I beg to disagree. And I said earlier what has happened is that 
Terri Schiavo has become a weapon, literally, for political 
exploitation and also exploitation by religious groups. 


PHILLIPS: John, what do you think about the political manipulation of 
religion in this case? 


<snip more Vatican spokesman> 


PHILLIPS: Deepak, final word from the spiritual side. I've received a 
lot of e-mails: is Terri Schiavo going to heaven? Has she had 
communication with God or her God? And finally, when she does pass, 
will her parents ever hear from her again? 


CHOPRA: I think the answer -- short answer to all of this is yes. All 
of those beliefs have a basis in religion and in the spiritual 
experience of many generations. So everybody should be comforted by 
that. 


And I think we are not actually interfering when we let nature take 
its 
course. Fifty years ago or a hundred years ago, we wouldn't have this 
kind of intervention, because nature would have taken its course 
anyway. 








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