Hi Offie:

On Mar 26, 2005, at 6:12 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

> Well, lets see Vaj. (Unless I am mixing you up with someone else, in
> which case I apologize and somebody set me straight).

I could not tell you where your confusion comes from! But I have an 
idea ;-)

>  You seemed to be
> trying with all your might to show that Maharishi is not a true guru,

<snip>

No, I said MMY was not one for formally accepting sishyas. It now 
appears this may have been done on his personals assistants, possibly a 
few others--at having and helping make them Brahmacharis. The movement 
was at one time a good thing. Now it is much less so.

Raja Off World...kinda has a nice ring to it!


>
> and Guru Dev couldn't pick him out of a crowd if asked to do so.

Huh? That's a strange thing to say.

>
> You hate TM and Maharishi.

Huh?

> (Unless I am mixing you up with someone else, in which case I
> apologize and somebody set me straight).

So apologize.


>
> Therefore , anything that seems like success of TM and Maharishi over
> your own movement that you want to start and lord it over everyone...
> you are mad about.

<shrugs> Nah. I'm really not an angry person.

> For example: TM gets taught in some public schools in the US, gets
> taught to criminal offenders in Missourri by a judge who does not
> meditate, but has seen the postive effects of it, and TM is funded
> strongly (10's of millions) in research by the NIH, and has more
> ACTUAL EVIDENCE for its efficacy than probably any other technique.
> Are you happy that this is the case?

I am happy that meditation is being taught. Doesn't matter if it is TM 
or an other. What DOES matter is if they are charging 2400 USD a pop. 
That is criminal. Better to use Vipassana like they do in India: 
cheaper, proven path to enlightenment and more bhang for your buck ;-). 
And of course it doesn't carry on the now rather weird baggage of the 
current TMO.

-V.



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