--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Well, Peter is not claiming Brahman, so you have taken my comments as
> a jumping off point for your own tangents, not to address what was
> written.

Yes, quite true, and to point out that from my point of view, Peter is 
actually probably in Brahman, not conventionally-understood C.C. Or, 
if you prefer, conventionally-understood C.C., G.C., and U.C. are only 
precognitions of the "real" C.C./Brahman. The experience of 
Understanding the no-self as Peter describes it appears to me to be 
very clearly the extinguishing of the Ahamkara in B.C. The state is 
easily mistakable for C.C. -- very stark, no support yet appreciation 
of the ground-state, and so on. If so, the bliss-points and shakti-
flows and shifting consciousness he is describing more recently would 
probably be K.C., not its prior-harmonic G.C. I do not recall 
apprehending the ability of THAT to be collapsible into bliss "I-
points" in G.C. -- this is more a hallmark of K.C., in my model. 

> Peter is claiming a dualistic turiya CC type experience. 

Not sure that he actually is :-)

>My jokish 
> parody was imitating Peter's almost infinitely repeated discourse on
> how Consciousness has nothing to do with relative qualtities. It
> stemmed from Peter's comment about a shift in Consciousness. I "get"
> what he means, I was poking fun at Peter's sometimes absolutist and
> seemingly a bit harsh criticism of others when they use a bit of 
> poetic license in descriptions of Consciousness in turiya type state.

Yes, I enjoyed it -- and hope you don't mind my taking your post as a 
jumping-off point to explore a bit :-)

LLL,
Rory







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