Hi Anon: On Mar 27, 2005, at 1:01 PM, anonymousff wrote:
> Would you elaborate on that, what samsara means here and how > would it be created thru that process/experience? Samsara is a 'pattern of suffering'. These are kept going by the "kleshas" you know from the Patanjali sutras (but you will find them in many systems). The basic pattern is to push away experiences we don't like and grasping the ones we do. This sense of struggle is what keeps samsara going. The process of forgetting our own innate spaciousness is the same process that allows dualism/ignorance to prevail. The only way out is to remain in closed eyed transcendence or "get used to" the non-dual state. There are different traditions that do this. > It dose looks like a loop experience that I always thought > as my own unstressing. I call them "loops" too. It's a good experiential word for it. > You see more to it and it rings as truth, I'm not sure I fully > understand > the connections you make to lokas (what is it?) The different types of conditioned thought (thought still caught up in klesha-driven "loops") exist as subtle and super-subtle thoughts which tend to aggregate in specific groupings, or lokas. If you experience them directly, they seem like other dimensions--put they are woven by subtle dualistic thoughts. If you can learn to let them arise naturally, you can learn what thought-patterns are conditioning you. Then you dissolve them. The "movies" lose their energy source. You gain an easier ability to reside in the non-dual state--because you've cut the very root of dualism. This is a very generic presentation. Specific will vary by tradition. -Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
